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Old 02/04/09, 7:29 PM   #16
Iru
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@esoth: Have you looked at IceHud? It has a range finder component and will show your buffs as part of the PlayerHealth module

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Old 02/04/09, 8:02 PM   #17
silents47
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Rather than using an additional addon to range check for Sniper Training, I've just added a DogTag to my Pitbull target frame that tells me when I'm in proper Sniper Training range. If I'm too close, I get a giant red "Move Back!" If I'm too far, I'm not shooting anyway, and should be able to tell that something's wrong, but for the sake of others, I added a "Get Closer!" if you're too far away to attack.

[(if (Class(unit="player") = "Hunter") then
    (if CanAttack(unit="target") and ((MaxRange > 0) and (MaxRange < 30)) then
        "Move Back!":Red
    elseif CanAttack(unit="target") and ((MaxRange >= 30) and (MaxRange < 45)) then
        " "
    elseif CanAttack(unit="target") then
        "Get Closer!":Red
    end)
end)]
EDIT: Forgot to mention that you'll need to download LibRangeCheck-2.0 for this DogTag to work; otherwise you'll just get the "Move Back!" all the time.

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Old 02/04/09, 8:34 PM   #18
Iru
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What spell do people use with Quartz to get the GCD spark? Everything I try seems to fail and Quartz refuses to remember it.

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Old 02/05/09, 1:15 AM   #19
Kharthus
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Deathwing
Originally Posted by Feanoro View Post
Personally, I have used and swear by Sorren's Timers - Curse for years now. Simple, takes almost no resources, tracks nearly everything unless told not to do so. I believe Kharthuss was derived from it, but don't quote me on that.
Kharthus's Hunter Timers was derived from the original Sorren's Hunter Timers when Sorren stopped working on them. Sorren returned and wrote Sorren's Timers. But looks like he's vanished again.

In the near future I'll be redoing the config options for KHT so you have full control over what timers are shown. Currently with all the buffs/procs in Surv it gets a little overwhelming and not so useful anymore.

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Old 02/05/09, 6:36 AM   #20
Fimbo
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Argent Dawn (EU)
Added most of the suggestions and fixed the Copy and Paste error for the Elk link.

I'm neutral on Quartz - it always seemed too big and bloated an addon to me when i tried it (years ago admittedly).
Do people use it just for hunters? Is it an efficient way of tracking procs/cooldowns/etc?

Edit: @Kharthus - that's good to hear - I used to use your addon for loads of stuff, but now it's relegated to trap timers because it couldn't customise it enough. I look forward to a new version.

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Old 02/05/09, 8:53 AM   #21
Dacrushertoo
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Ysondre
When trap dancing, I find I am not far enough away from the boss for Kill Shot to fire, and cooldown/timer add ons I use don't work with it, as they say it's ready even though the boss is still @ 99% health. Does anyone know a mod that will alert me when the target is at 20% health so I can disengage, fire KS and re-position? I lost a lot of dps last night on Patch because he died so quick I never got in range for KS....

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Old 02/05/09, 9:00 AM   #22
Meluda
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Bronze Dragonflight (EU)
To get GCD spark working in Quartz I use Track Humanoids.

I use Quartz mainly because it vizualizes latency very nice. You can see when you can start casting a next spell before the previous one is finished. Therefore it can help in improving activity time while hand-weaving shots. This is ofcourse not needed when you wish to spam some sort of shot macro.

I don't think Quartz tracks cooldowns.

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Old 02/05/09, 10:22 AM   #23
Har
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Drenden
Originally Posted by silents47 View Post
Rather than using an additional addon to range check for Sniper Training, I've just added a DogTag to my Pitbull target frame [snip]
Wouldn't it just be easier to put throw onto a prominent action bar, and watch for it to grey out? My understanding is that if you are far enough that you can't throw, you are far enough for sniper training.

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Old 02/05/09, 10:30 AM   #24
luigithekid
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Kargath
EBB

I have a group in EBB in the middle of my screen for watching LnL procs, and also aspects (it pretty much shows in the middle of the screen if I'm in Viper, Pack or Cheetah). The thing is that I have to blacklist every single buff that I come across. I think there's got to be an easier way, anyone?
Bear in mind that I tried just whitelisting LnL, and for some reason that didn't work for me (it worked for aspects, but not for LnL).

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Old 02/05/09, 11:16 AM   #25
Mugsley
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This thread will get cluttered quickly.

I recommend ForteXorcist. The addon includes one bar that consolidates all cooldowns; showing when each one will be available.


Similar to RangeDisplay; I use Nudge. I believe it is a little bit lighter weight; but I can't say for certain.

ScrollingCombatText has a built-in alert feature for low mana and low health I use as a way to time Viper.

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Old 02/05/09, 12:36 PM   #26
alarge
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Originally Posted by Iru View Post
What spell do people use with Quartz to get the GCD spark? Everything I try seems to fail and Quartz refuses to remember it.
I have this exact same problem and it's frustrating the heck out of me.

Here's what I've done: Install Quartz, bring up dialog (/quartz), go to Global Cooldown window, and type in "Track Humanoids" into the spell field. I've tried leaving everything enabled, and tried various combinations of enabling only GCD and disabling misc. other bars.

If I go to any other dialog and come back to this one, the spell field is empty. And I get no spark.

I've posted a question on the Quartz forum on Curse and haven't gotten any response. For you folks that have gotten this to work, what did you do?

Edit: Sure enough, hitting <Enter> after typing in the spell name did it for me!

Last edited by alarge : 02/06/09 at 2:26 AM.

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Old 02/05/09, 12:37 PM   #27
silents47
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Gorgonnash
Originally Posted by Har View Post
Wouldn't it just be easier to put throw onto a prominent action bar, and watch for it to grey out? My understanding is that if you are far enough that you can't throw, you are far enough for sniper training.
It's not really a matter of "easier" when either way, there's a big warning somewhere on your screen that basically says "Your crap ain't working." I have a friend who does it the same way as you, and it works just fine for him; I'm just one of those people with a ridiculously fine-tuned UI who would have more trouble adding an actionbar button that I won't actually use. The PitBull warning seemed like the neatest, cleanest way to do it, since my target frames are right in the same area as my ClassTimers, and I don't have to go back and add/edit/reparent eePanels.

I'm neutral on Quartz - it always seemed too big and bloated an addon to me when i tried it (years ago admittedly).
Do people use it just for hunters? Is it an efficient way of tracking procs/cooldowns/etc?
I use Quartz on all my characters for the latency bar on my cast bar... but cast bars and latency are all I even turn on. It's considerably less bloat if you just disable all the extra modules (do I really need a pet cast timer?) and stick with what you need. Of course, adding a 2 second timer to your Explosive Shot is ridiculously useful as well, and that module hasn't affected the game's performance in any noticeable way for me.

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Old 02/05/09, 12:52 PM   #28
Weierstrass
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Thorium Brotherhood
Originally Posted by luigithekid View Post
I have a group in EBB in the middle of my screen for watching LnL procs, and also aspects (it pretty much shows in the middle of the screen if I'm in Viper, Pack or Cheetah). The thing is that I have to blacklist every single buff that I come across. I think there's got to be an easier way, anyone?
Bear in mind that I tried just whitelisting LnL, and for some reason that didn't work for me (it worked for aspects, but not for LnL).
You could whitelist just the ones you want to see. I think that is what I did for my group that shows when Quick Shots, Greatness, and Reflection of Torment are active.

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Old 02/05/09, 1:15 PM   #29
Lerastes
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Cenarion Circle
Originally Posted by alarge View Post
I have this exact same problem and it's frustrating the heck out of me.

Here's what I've done: Install Quartz, bring up dialog (/quartz), go to Global Cooldown window, and type in "Track Humanoids" into the spell field. I've tried leaving everything enabled, and tried various combinations of enabling only GCD and disabling misc. other bars.

If I go to any other dialog and come back to this one, the spell field is empty. And I get no spark.

I've posted a question on the Quartz forum on Curse and haven't gotten any response. For you folks that have gotten this to work, what did you do?
Try opening your spell book and shift clicking the spell into the field instead.

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Old 02/05/09, 2:29 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by alarge View Post
I have this exact same problem and it's frustrating the heck out of me.

Here's what I've done: Install Quartz, bring up dialog (/quartz), go to Global Cooldown window, and type in "Track Humanoids" into the spell field. I've tried leaving everything enabled, and tried various combinations of enabling only GCD and disabling misc. other bars.

If I go to any other dialog and come back to this one, the spell field is empty. And I get no spark.

I've posted a question on the Quartz forum on Curse and haven't gotten any response. For you folks that have gotten this to work, what did you do?
A lot of mod settings fields require you to press "enter" after you write a spell name, with your focus still in the spell entry field. I don't remember offhand if Quartz is one of them, but the behavior you state (empty when you come back) indicates that's might be the case.

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