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Old 04/01/09, 12:35 PM   #951
Nooska
Don Flamenco
 
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
Damage, yes.


Casting speed slow? Only if the boss is suceptible to it in the first place (IOW no afaik)

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Old 04/01/09, 10:22 PM   #952
Jalysa
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Hunter
 
Black Dragonflight
I'm curious, after having played around on the PTR for some time and doing testing on the 10m of Uldar [Due to our guild not copying over.] I've been wondering what variation of the Survival spec is running highest, or if anyone has done the req testing to back up the claims.

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Old 04/02/09, 2:09 AM   #953
Namarus
Piston Honda
 
Orc Hunter
 
<BUR>
Demon Soul
On simulation craft the standard 6/14/51 spec no replenishment is running top.

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Old 04/02/09, 8:19 AM   #954
justbekuz
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Malfurion
Does the Draenei Aura transfer to pets now?

Since FA will be transferring to pets....has anyone checked to see if the Draenei aura does as well?

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Old 04/02/09, 8:25 AM   #955
arlen
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Human Paladin
 
Blackhand
I thought it always did...

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Old 04/02/09, 8:44 AM   #956
Girthbot
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Orc Hunter
 
Frostmane
You'd have thought wrong. That's why most raiding hunters aim for the 8% from gear, and skip that talent.

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Old 04/02/09, 8:46 AM   #957
justbekuz
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Malfurion
It doesn't appear to be on live....at least for me.

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Old 04/02/09, 9:26 AM   #958
Jerem
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Draenei Shaman
 
Les Sentinelles (EU)
Originally Posted by justbekuz View Post
It doesn't appear to be on live....at least for me.
I raid with 231 Hit Rating, and am always grouped with a Draenei.
I never miss a shot, nor does my pet, unless said Draenei dies or decides not to stand where he should be.

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Old 04/02/09, 9:38 AM   #959
tet666
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Dwarf Druid
 
Aegwynn (EU)
The draenei aura you get does not apply to your pets hit, however the aura the pet itself gets does apply to his hit.

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Old 04/02/09, 9:50 AM   #960
Fimbo
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Tauren Hunter
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
Originally Posted by Namarus View Post
On simulation craft the standard 6/14/51 spec no replenishment is running top.
I haven't used it, but can we assume that Simulation Craft (like the spreadsheet) assumes a static fight?

I'm specced without Aimed Shot currently, but the amount of movement in Uldar fights apparently take may swing me to take Aimed Shot, at least while learning the fights.

Can other people who have managed to get on the test realm comment on this?

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Old 04/02/09, 11:48 AM   #961
Greenpiggy
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Tauren Hunter
 
Daggerspine (EU)
I think you can have best of both worlds Fimbo.

According to my maths 2/18/51 turns out top - I think a lot of people are forgetting to take aimed shot out of their rotation when they lose the talent.

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Old 04/02/09, 12:34 PM   #962
KraxisSingular
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Runetotem (EU)
Originally Posted by Greenpiggy View Post
I think you can have best of both worlds Fimbo.

According to my maths 2/18/51 turns out top - I think a lot of people are forgetting to take aimed shot out of their rotation when they lose the talent.
Quite right.
I have that one 23 DPS over 0/15/56 and 30 above 2/15/54.

However I'm not certain I will lay my head on the block of manareturns just yet. Nor the loss of Replenishment. If you are not in an optimal situation the lack of Thrill and Replenishment will hurt. I think I prefer being stable no matter the situation, and the loss is pretty marginal overall for that safety.

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Old 04/02/09, 6:13 PM   #963
arlen
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Human Paladin
 
Blackhand
Originally Posted by Girthbot View Post
You'd have thought wrong. That's why most raiding hunters aim for the 8% from gear, and skip that talent.
I was talking about the Draenei aura. I know the FA talent doesn't.

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Old 04/03/09, 4:35 AM   #964
Aieda
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Dwarf Hunter
 
Dragonmaw (EU)
Originally Posted by justbekuz View Post
Since FA will be transferring to pets....has anyone checked to see if the Draenei aura does as well?
As long as your pet has the buff from the draenei aura (ie. is in range) it will receive the hit.

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Old 04/03/09, 8:04 AM   #965
Æthien
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Orc Hunter
 
Kazzak (EU)
Originally Posted by arlen View Post
I was talking about the Draenei aura. I know the FA talent doesn't.
FA will transfer after 3.1, and I am assuming that the draenei aura will not as the pet gets the aura anyway.

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Old 04/03/09, 8:39 AM   #966
arlen
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Blackhand
Removed.

Last edited by arlen : 04/03/09 at 9:11 AM.

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Old 04/03/09, 1:02 PM   #967
Ravenfire
Piston Honda
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Stormrage
My PTR bug report on Black Arrow got a reply ([BUG] Black Arrow). We'll have to watch the next couple of PTR patches to see how blizzard changes it though I suspect if blizzard fixes those bug, we will see a base damage reduction to the ability before it goes live.

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Old 04/03/09, 3:31 PM   #968
Bozorgmehr
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Aerie Peak
There was also another issue reported where the 6% damage increase from Black Arrow was not applying to Explosive Shot ticks. It seems like BA was a bit of a rushed band-aid.

EDIT: removed irrelevant bits.

Last edited by Bozorgmehr : 04/04/09 at 2:41 AM.

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Old 04/03/09, 4:52 PM   #969
Bullshot
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Night Elf Hunter
 
The Maelstrom (EU)
Originally Posted by Bozorgmehr View Post
I don' think 3.1 is coming any time soon considering Yogg-Saron has not been tested yet (much less his achievements, loot table and hard mode) so that's kind of a relief.
Don't expect to. The end-boss of a raid instance is never put on the PTR, to prevent people from "testing" it.

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Old 04/03/09, 5:20 PM   #970
alienangel
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Draenei Hunter
 
Eredar
Originally Posted by Bullshot View Post
Don't expect to. The end-boss of a raid instance is never put on the PTR, to prevent people from "testing" it.
I could swear KJ was on the Sunwell PTR (briefly) - there were fairly accurate posts and a screenshot of the fight available before the instance hit live.

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Old 04/03/09, 5:49 PM   #971
Namarus
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Orc Hunter
 
<BUR>
Demon Soul
Originally Posted by alienangel View Post
I could swear KJ was on the Sunwell PTR (briefly) - there were fairly accurate posts and a screenshot of the fight available before the instance hit live.
No, it never was.

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Old 04/03/09, 6:06 PM   #972
KraxisSingular
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Blood Elf Hunter
 
Runetotem (EU)
Originally Posted by Bozorgmehr View Post
It seems to me that BA was a bit of a rushed band-aid.
Quite, when the planned Trap Launcher wasn't possible they had to do something. Dusting off an old beta ability was a logical and quick fix. In this case overall I consider it a rater good save, but I have called it out before, BA isn't balanced nor is it ready due to being Plan Z (it was apparently only just included before the PTR went up leaving no real internal testing). All we can hope for is them fixing it properly. And if that happens then I would consider BA to be a very good ability. Ok ok, it drives us towards a more Aff-like rotation, but even so I wouldn't consider it anywhere as bad. I don't mind it, but I guess I don't mind that other people might not like it too much.

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Old 04/04/09, 2:55 PM   #973
trracer
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Troll Hunter
 
Frostwolf (EU)
hello,

i come from germany so i can`t post in the us blizzard forum.
i have found a bug with the pet talent "call of the wild".
the bug is on live realms and the ptrs too.

i reportet it several times with the ptr ingame bugtool
but i don`t know if the devs read the europe stuff...

if you are more then 20y away from your pet you get the buff from "cotw"
but you don`t get the ap bonus.

if you are near your pet everythink works fine.


please can someone this to the us forums so we know it get fixed with 3.1

thanks

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Old 04/04/09, 4:37 PM   #974
radioheaded
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Night Elf Hunter
 
Frostmourne (EU)
Originally Posted by trracer View Post
if you are more then 20y away from your pet you get the buff from "cotw"
but you don`t get the ap bonus.

if you are near your pet everythink works fine.
Just tested at 35y. Buff appeared on Screen, no ap bonus though.

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Old 04/04/09, 6:42 PM   #975
Rinsenrepeat
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Draenei Hunter
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
can also confirm that i am not getting the call of the wild bonus from my pet if im 30 yards away.

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