Raiding with Beast Mastery in 3.3.3 and beyond - Page 21

Vø� d · 07/11/09, 1:50 AM

Actually On the yogg fight if you go into the portal and come back out your pet does stay on the brain and keeps attacking. I had to go Surv after 3.08 but am looking back into BM for that fight since in phase 1 I seem to be holding back my dps in order to not kill the adds before they get to sara anyway. I'm hoping the extra pet dps saves us a portal phase since the last time we go in we seem to be on the brain for like 5 sec

Marthel · 07/13/09, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by Vø� d

Actually On the yogg fight if you go into the portal and come back out your pet does stay on the brain and keeps attacking. I had to go Surv after 3.08 but am looking back into BM for that fight since in phase 1 I seem to be holding back my dps in order to not kill the adds before they get to sara anyway. I'm hoping the extra pet dps saves us a portal phase since the last time we go in we seem to be on the brain for like 5 sec

Interestingly in the Paragon Yogg-Saron + 0 Video (mmo-champion has a link) there appears to be a Devilsaur (and thus a BM hunter) in the mix. I wonder if it's for this exact reason.

Lupius · 07/14/09, 12:50 AM

Haven't noticed my pet's whereabouts as I leave the brain realm, but it usually despawns (out of range?) by the time I reach the green beam to recharge sanity. I'll keep a close eye on it this week.

Elanessë · 07/14/09, 1:08 AM

The location of the brain room is directly below yogg's main room. When you get spat out his mouth if you stay close to the centre of the room then your pet will indeed contine to attack the brain. However, any attempt to move away from the central area will cause you to outrange your pet causing it to despawn.

In regards to the Paragon 0 kill, as in a 0 keeper kill you get zero sanity refresh so this would be a non-issue anyways.

Scotch · 07/14/09, 9:29 PM

I suspect the Paragon reasoning is either extra brain dps or an idea that BM will be a better spec for burning through p3 due to less dps loss during Lunatic Gaze - or both.

Rhy · 07/15/09, 2:35 AM

I will go for the 2nd reason. I tried the BM spec last night on 3 keepers. I did more damage on the brain than all the others, but only just ahead of the rogue. Compared to the previous week's Yogg 4 keepers, where I was MM, I did ~70k damage less with BM. I just can't tell how much of this is due to the one extra keeper. Still, it performs reasonably well in P3 and killing Corruptors in P2, so I think that's why they used it.
However, I encountered a problem last night. If I leave the pet to dps the brain and leave, I get thrown too far away from the center of the room and the pet despawns. The other hunter in the guild suggested using Disengage to stay close, which only works if I disengage in exactly the right moment so that when I get knocked away from Yogg the second time, I will still be close enough to him. Is there something I am missing or that's the only way to do it?

Oh, and also, what I noticed on the Paragon movie, at least the hunter using Devilsaur does not run into the portals. I couldn't see what are the others doing tho.

Derchizul · 07/15/09, 12:26 PM

I think they wanted the +3%dmg buff for all raid, thats why they chose a BM hunter to tag along.

TrevvyTrev · 07/15/09, 7:13 PM

Originally Posted by Derchizul

I think they wanted the +3%dmg buff for all raid, thats why they chose a BM hunter to tag along.

They didn't have a ret paladin?

DiamondTear · 07/16/09, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by TrevvyTrev

They didn't have a ret paladin?

We did.

Korghal · 07/16/09, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by DiamondTear

We did.

Then you must tell us! Why the BM hunter?

Nova442 · 07/19/09, 3:07 AM

I'm more interested in the spec chosen for the Yogg fight since IT is worthless. 54/17? 54/14/3 to try and try to hug the center to keep the pet on the brain?

KraxisSingular · 07/19/09, 7:00 PM

Originally Posted by Nova442

I'm more interested in the spec chosen for the Yogg fight since IT is worthless. 54/17? 54/14/3 to try and try to hug the center to keep the pet on the brain?

Obviously not since that Devilsaur was roaming about on the outside. But I would like to hear about this too. What was it that made BM attractive for the fight? Now that the pet wasn't on the brain I can't really see any good advantage.

♦ arison · 07/19/09, 7:18 PM

For a Freya-less kill, you regularly need to turn away from the boss *before* the sanity-draining cast starts, which can be a big DPS drain; perhaps the BM advantage would be allowing more of your DPS to continue full-time (since it doesn't need to face away).

Juuni · 07/20/09, 4:37 AM

Well, thats a really good point to use it on the hardest phase. And focus will last long enough till you turn back again.
Now it really depends how much dps is the pet pushing right?

Neruse · 07/20/09, 1:41 PM

I doubt BM would be superior. I am able to dps with instants during Gaze; if you spin your character fast enough you can use ExS/Chim/whatever and even Kill Shot (but that takes some practice).