Hunter DPS Analyzer - Page 2

Galushi · 07/06/09, 1:10 AM

Originally Posted by Doriggi

Really great work it has helped me out sooo much with my dps the talent section is great but one question i had was i put n a talent spec that yielded more dps that the highest build i found on elitist. So the question bieng how accurate is this ruffly?

Make sure you enable all the buffs/debuffs in their corresponding sections. The EJ top spec usually skips raid buffing talents since it assumes someone else can provide them. If you were simulating in a buffless enviroment it may skew the result differently.

Rivkah · 07/06/09, 2:28 AM

Originally Posted by Doriggi

Really great work it has helped me out sooo much with my dps the talent section is great but one question i had was i put n a talent spec that yielded more dps that the highest build i found on elitist. So the question bieng how accurate is this ruffly?

Generally the numbers should be coming in very close to what you get off of the spreadsheet using the shot rotation tab (I am looking into supporting the rotation test but it will be difficult without a Windows Excel to actually test it in). But there will be small discrepancies. If the discrepancy is more than a small amount please let me know which saved setting you put it under and I can try comparing it to the spreadsheet and see if there's a bug causing the difference. It has only been in public beta for a few days so I'm sure there's still stuff that needs fixing.

With regards to the rollover wowhead links, I have been considering that, although since the items are in select menus it probably would be a bit messier to implement. Right now I'm trying to make sure to get the basic bugs shaken out, then I will try to see what I can do about improving some of the formatting and detail output.

One thing that would be useful to know is what data in the spreadsheet that I'm not displaying now is actually of good use to a lot of people. What I'm showing now is obviously a small subset of what I'm actually calculating, I can add more but I didn't want to overwhelm people with the sheer volume of data that's in the spreadsheet, so I'd like to pinpoint which data points are of value and get those into the display.

Galushi · 07/06/09, 7:23 PM

Not a huge concern but id be interested in seeing the average Non-crit and Critical strike damage of each of the abilities that are listed on the priority list. Right now it shows the average total damage (factoring crit and crit modifiers and piercing shots) which is fine, but id like to see what the actual noncrit and crit dmg is as well if its possible. Would be interesting to see how those values change with different stats/gear. But like i said, total average damage like currently implemented is already adequate.

Nice work btw. I dont have excel myself and OpenOffice tends to butcher the dps spreadsheet so your work on this standalone site is a godsend to me. Even just getting the AEP values for what my gear is at allows me to easily input into LootRank or similar and make gear comparisons easier.

Doriggi · 07/07/09, 2:09 AM

One more question reguarding the hunter damage calculator. What would be the best fight to enter in (time, level of boss, etc.) to get the most accurate damage per second. I have been told that Patchwork is the best boss to test you damage per second on. Is this true, and if so, can that boss fight be entered in the damage calculator accurately? Once again, truly great work, also one thing I would like to see in the future is possibly a drop down list for 10 and 25 man raid bosses. Thanks again, guys.

Croto · 07/07/09, 2:53 AM

Could we get an option for popping a haste pot similar to what you already have with the mana pot option?

Rhy · 07/07/09, 3:41 AM

Originally Posted by Doriggi

One more question reguarding the hunter damage calculator. What would be the best fight to enter in (time, level of boss, etc.) to get the most accurate damage per second. I have been told that Patchwork is the best boss to test you damage per second on. Is this true, and if so, can that boss fight be entered in the damage calculator accurately? Once again, truly great work, also one thing I would like to see in the future is possibly a drop down list for 10 and 25 man raid bosses. Thanks again, guys.

It makes no difference what boss you are attacking. They are all level 83, and all WotLK bosses have the same armor value, unless there are bosses like Teron or RoS back in BT who had lower armor than the rest, but so far I haven't seen anyone mentioning something like this. The only variable is the movement required, that's why Patch is considered the best.

About the fight length, leave it at the default 6 mins. You don't use the spreadsheet to simulate a specific fight. It uses ideal conditions that you can never replicate in a live raid. Just use it to pick the best gear/rotation/talent options.

Hagen · 07/07/09, 8:43 AM

Originally Posted by Rivkah

One thing that would be useful to know is what data in the spreadsheet that I'm not displaying now is actually of good use to a lot of people. What I'm showing now is obviously a small subset of what I'm actually calculating, I can add more but I didn't want to overwhelm people with the sheer volume of data that's in the spreadsheet, so I'd like to pinpoint which data points are of value and get those into the display.

What I am interested in is:
-average hit, crit and Piercing Shots damage per shot
-something like the calculations tab in the spreadsheet for those who want a lot of information (This could be another tab that is collapsed by default)

Glognar · 07/07/09, 10:19 AM

Outstanding!

Concerned about Glyphs.

In spreadsheet going from SS Glyph to Chimera results in over 100 DPS loss.
In your application, going from SS Glyph to Chimera results in over over 50 DPS gain.

akapatata · 07/07/09, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Glognar

Outstanding!

Concerned about Glyphs.

In spreadsheet going from SS Glyph to Chimera results in over 100 DPS loss.
In your application, going from SS Glyph to Chimera results in over over 50 DPS gain.

Actually if you checked on the spreadsheet again you will realized that with or with out the chimera shot glyph there is not a change on the dps.

Rivkah · 07/07/09, 6:49 PM

Just added the new PTR changes for animal handler and wild hunt to the PTR support. Looks like a pretty substantial buff for BM (about 300dps on the one person I tested it on) and a small buff for the other specs (about 20dps on my survival spec). Waiting on the rake changes till I can get clearer on the details.

I'll look into the chimera glyph issue and see if there's a problem.

Rezdan · 07/08/09, 11:48 PM

Do you have any plans to add shareable setups? This could be used to globally share the current BIS setups as well as between members (with permission from creator of the setup of course).

Rivkah · 07/09/09, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Rezdan

Do you have any plans to add shareable setups? This could be used to globally share the current BIS setups as well as between members (with permission from creator of the setup of course).

There is already a public settings option, but I do also plan to create a method for giving out links to settings that aren't flagged for display on the public settings page as I'm sure that's going to get unwieldy pretty quickly. Should be up in a day or two.

Markam · 07/09/09, 6:15 AM

Hi Rivkah.

Thanks for your nice work.
However the Import from Armory feature is not working for me. I always get the same error message : Couldn't retrieve primary talent info for Markam on Chants éternels.
Still I can check my talents on the Armory.
Could this be due to the fact that I have a secondary spec that is still empty?

Nandei · 07/09/09, 6:58 AM

I am getting the same error from armory import as Markam, "Couldn't retrieve primary talent info for Nandei on Moonglade". I would think this is due to the change in the armory talent page: EU Armory now matches US Armory as far as I can tell, the pet talents are included and the glyphs have been moved to the right side of the page instead of the bottom.

Zeel · 07/09/09, 7:27 AM

Would it be possible to insert armory link on profiles loaded from the Public Settings list?
I for one would love to take a bit closer look on characters that have higher dps in the
Public Settings list.