Originally Posted by gexstar
Hey guys, im kinda wondering if FD considers the T13 4p bonus. Or is it just really weak ?
I have the choice between 397 Morchok Gauntlets and the 384 Set Gloves which would grand me the 4p bonus.
I put it into Femalde Dwarf and it says its a 130 DPS downgrade... does the bunch of agi on the 397 gaunts really outweigh a 30% (!) haste proc for 15 secs ?
Couldnt believe that so i ran it through simcraft... and simcraft said its an increase of about 300 DPS.
I already heard that FD isnt that great for calculating haste values... but thats a kinda large difference between simcraft and FD.
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Actually, of any type of dynamic effect modeled in FD, FD generally handles haste effects the most accurately since it applies the haste over the applicable periods after determining a proc has occurred. If you enable the setting to see debug data, you can clearly see when FD models the T13 4P proc occurring. It is shows as "T13 4pc" in the Notes column of the shot simulation table.
Also in the gear bonuses section, it estimates the benefit of the T13 4pc for your set up. For my hunter as SV, the estimate is +585 DPS.
I already have the T13 4P and the gloves to which you refer (the heroic version in fact). With keeping my 4pc as is and comparing my DPS between the 397 version of the Morchok gloves and the LFR tier gloves I see the following DPS drop of 368, after adjusting my stats via reforging, especially to make up for the large swing in hit rating between the two pieces. Since the DPS difference in the benefit of teh T13 4pc is small between the two cases and both still well over 500 DPS. Thus, for my hunter as SV having the LFR tier gloves to get the T13 4pc is about 175 DPS better than the 397 off-tier gloves.
For MM, the benefit of the T13 4P is even larger as long as you can use that haste proc to fire more AIs instead of ASs.
I do not know much about BM, but I believe that the BM case will see similar results with the 4pc winning.
If you are not getting similar results in FD, I would suggest making sure that you have it set up properly and that you are properly adjusting reforges after gear swaps.