I've modified my Vial of Shadows support to reflect 1:1 RAP scaling. I'm not sure if this is completely accurate as it's possible it may be implemented slightly differently, but all the information I've found so far seems to indicate it works this way. This makes even the raid finder version of the trinket come out as worth a ton of damage, so I suspect the proc modeling will still need more work.

All proc based damage sources (or on use cds that generate damage) are lumped together in the damage report as Proc DPS, which is why it doesn't have breakdowns specific for crit and whatnot (I might change that someday but it's a lot of work to setup separate entries for each proc). Crit chance is being taken into account where applicable.

In the case of the bow, I have it currently modeled as based off the spell crit chance and damage multiplier, affected by SV mastery and the spell damage debuff. It's also currently modeled as based off spell hit but I've been told that part was fixed, so I need to modify it slightly to fix that this weekend. I think currently we understand the proc well enough that more logs are probably not needed, but if you think there's something incorrect with what I describe about the current modeling based on what you're seeing in the logs, let me know so I can fix it.

Vial of Shadows seems to be fixed - not a single dodge/parry whole last raiding week and this reset too. Maybe they made it expertise capped based on hunter hitcap, didnt test with less than 8% hit.

I made a few tweaks today including adding a new setting to allow you to disable the suppression of arcane shot for careful aim or aimed shot when the 4pc T13 is not on cooldown. I had a few requests for this, so hopefully it's useful. I'm not sure if it's setup perfectly for people's needs, so if anyone has any suggestions on a better implementation for it let me know. The setting is not spec specific as SV and BM hunters could also be using the careful aim suppression option for arcane shot.

Hey Zehereh, I get no change to dps when I drop 1 point in termination but I gain 114 when I drop both points. Why?

Zeherah's Hunter DPS Analyzer

I've come across a weird "issue" in FD. Currently, with all my gear plugged in and my spec is my BM spec, it says Agi is worth 0.038 dps per point. This is clearly a bit off, but I'm curious as to what causes it.

The profile is searchable as BM Wesker, and this is the link:

BM Wesker

For the first case of dropping a single point in Term, the DPS stayed the same since the focus from the 2nd point in Term provides no benefit, especially with the T13 2p. Your shots taken are exactly the same in both case.

Remember that Term helps best when you are hasted and performing higher focus costing AIs. In this case, your only haste effects over the Term phase were trinket procs (which are not enough haste at your haste level to switch to AI) and a T13 4p proc. Hence, only 2 AIs were cast over the whole Term phase. The result is a little different if had RF or BL over Term with more AI casts.

In the second case, the reason that DPS went up after removing the last point in Term is easily seen with a little investigation. First, the shot totals changed, with 1 more AI and SS versus 2 less ASs, which is definitely a DPS gain. So the question is why did this difference occur. The reason is the default rules that FD uses, which saves focus for CS. It will not let you cast a focus costing shot unless you have enough focus to do both it and CS. In the original case, the point in Term resulted in higher focus at a point at about 248s where the original case had enough focus to cast back to back ASs per the FD rule but the the no Term case did not. It is the ripple down effect of this decision that caused the difference. It resulted in your T13 4p proc to occur about 2s later meaning that a little bit more of it overlapped with a The Hungerer proc and reduced an AI's cast time. But the real difference is that the second case had to perform some SSs sooner, resulting in a slightly sooner MMM AI proc. This along with the extra SS resulted in an extra MMM AI proc occurring right before the end that did not occur previously.

This is not to say right or wrong but only to report the impact. The change to the Sigil modeling in FD is a huge difference. It reduces the average agility benefit by about -191 and results in a loss of 805 DPS for my character.

I really do not understand Blizzard itemization here since the Sigil is essentially worth on average 382 agi and 458 haste. This makes it worth less from an average point of view than Heroic The Hungerer with 433 agi and 433 haste. That is a 6 lower ilevel trinket with +52 agi and -25 haste on average. Of course, being able to stack the full agi amount of the Sigil during the CA phase is a nice boost not modeled by FD.

Made a few more updates to the site. The biggest one is changing the attack power scaling on Vial of Shadows to use melee AP instead of ranged AP. Although the tooltip makes it look like it scales with ranged AP, based on test data provided by WarBringerPT on the MMO Champion forums it looks pretty clear that it's actually scaling off melee AP. Modifying this caused the value of the heroic version of the trinket to decrease by 363 dps in my gear setup. I've posted about the bug on the Blizzard forums but I think it's likely it won't be changed.

I also added in support for Chardev profile import. Although I expect this won't be used a ton, it might be handy in cases in which you want to use Simulationcraft and my site both to test certain gear setups- now you can use the same source for the gear/talent list.

I also modified the termination bonus to receive the doubling from 2pc T13 based on Neruse's testing and finally remembered to change the default value for Dark Intent to reflect the changes to the ability that were made quite awhile ago. If you have Dark Intent enabled and you're using an old saved setting, you may want to make sure you've updated the value as my change only impacts the default.

Baesd on reports I've received, it looks like Vial of Shadows is fixed now so I switched it back to RAP scaling. Adding support for the new LnL will be a larger task, but I'll see if I can make time for it tonight.

Good Morning,

I have a huuuuuuge problem with MM atm.

So lets start from the beginning.

I joined a new guild when DS started, a really casual guild 7/8NM 10man, and talked with the other hunter already in the group about spec, rotation etc.
He is MM in around 390 gear. He told me he isnt using Arcane Shot or Aimed Shot AT ALL, only the instant proc of Aimed.
So i thought for myself, piece of cake, even 8 ILVL lower i will do more dmg, especially as Surv.

But no, he is topping the charts nearly every time. Then i thought ok, he is the only one geared above 385.

So i tried it in femaledwarf and yeah, the tool is showing me a 3000 DPS INCREASE with his play style over the normal focus dump AS rotation.

He is 90% of the time Focus capped and his 2p T13 is 100% worthless.

Any explanaition for this?


Edit: HArdcast AI is an additional 2,5k over his playstyle. So should this mean hard AI is 4,4k dps over AS dump?