Both cata.wowhead and wowtal are up to date. The information is in the Brain Freeze tooltip, not the Fingers of Frost tool tip.

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The links to the recommended specs are broken, please check.

I'm planning to go frost on live and I wanted to share a couple of observations about combat ratings and breakpoints. Keep in mind this is just speculation based on the description of current talents/abilities and combat ratings @ lvl 80:

The first breakpoint is going to be the point where early frost doesn't give you its full benefit. It reduces your cast time down to 1.3 seconds, so you're going to hit the 1 second point pretty quick. Specifically, you're probably going to have a 5% spell haste buff in a raid and most likely a 3% Netherwind Presence buff, so that brings the rating breakpoint down to about 663 before the benefit drops off sharply; however, it doesn't provide that much of a dps benefit so I doubt this is going to be a talent to gear around.

Second breakpoint is for instant spells: Frost is going to be casting *lots* of instants. In a raid you'll need 1269 haste to bring it down to 1 second.

Note: I didn't count the effects of bloodlust or time warp simply because I don't think it's prudent to gear around 45 seconds of any given fight. Also, it doesn't count the effects of temporary rating/% based buffs like black magic/power infusion.

The other thing that affects us is crit - Since shatter gives us a 3x multiplier against frozen targets, you're going to see a drop-off once you get to about 33.3% crit (Not counting any boss crit reduction.) In a raid you're going to have a +5% crit buff and a +5% crit debuff, so that brings down the paper doll soft-cap to about 23.3%. This is going to be pretty hard with crit rates being as high as they are, so I'm choosing crit rating as the second stat to reforge after spirit.

I'm currently planning to gear around hit-cap, 23.3% crit and 1269 haste breakpoint, but I still don't know whether reforging/regemming into intellect or mastery would be optimal. I'm probably going to try raiding with full mastery first, then later reforge into intellect to see which one provides a bigger difference.

I've been wondering myself how much reforging we will end up doing as it will affect dual spec pretty harshly (assuming you're speccing into a different tree with your 2nd spec) from all I've been reading. With these "breakpoints" for frost I would assume gemming mostly int, and reforging any excess hit/haste/crit to mastery.

Keep in mind you cannot reforge Int "In Cataclysm, the primary stats are Stamina, Intellect, Strength, and Agility. These stats are considered set in stone and cannot be altered via reforging" see here Also gemming mastery (as far as I can tell), will be a choice after we begin the expansion.

MMO-Champion's talent calculator (wowtal) got an update which broke the previous links. I've changed them to point to the new wowtal.

I've also added a link to the EJ Cataclysm Mage Resource Thread at the bottom of the OP.

change in Cata Beta, straight from MMO-Champion
That looks like an interesting change.
It depends on how it interacts with FoF. If it doesn't, then it will just increase burst in PvP -adding 20% AND tripling the critchance on frozen targets.
If it does, it could mean holding off on that IL/BF shatter combo until FoF ist about to fade (or you gain a second stack), if no DF is up.
Would be interesting do do the numbers on this.

Maybe someone in the Beta can test this.

First, we must gear Hit to 17%. Second, you make a mistake in your calculation of the crit cap. There is another buff and talents:

• Piercing Ice: +3% Crit
• Molten Armor with glyph: +5% Critique
• Buff or Debuff: +5% Critique
• Total: +13%

I think it will be difficult to have the +5% crit buff and the -5% Crit Debuff at the same time in a raid 10. So, the Critique Soft Cap will be 20% form Gear (crit and intell). It will be very difficult at 85

edit:

• In the first post, there is a little mistake it's "Shattered Barrier", not "Shadow".
• Question: why did you only take 2/3 Ice Floes?

No need:

You'll note that Frostbolt is not mentioned. This change is very odd, as it has zero effect on PvE damage while increasing the PvP damage against frozen targets that everyone's already complaining about.

Answering two quick questions on the sample talent builds below. Overall I'm not happy with that section though. I'm open to any suggestions/examples on how we might better describe the possible builds and key tradeoffs and choices from a frost mage reference point of view.

I'm not sure how that happened. I've fixed the builds and updated the links.

I've checked the links more than once--they work fine for me.

First, I think you can add a part on the soft crit cap, and the other stat (haste, mastery, ...). Instead of putting a default built with all forst useful talent, you can began with a standart level 80 build . After, you can list the level 85 builds, but explanation have to be more simple. It will be made by a little question/answer for each spec.
And finally, you tell why you don't take talents like Reactive Barrier.


For the Glyph, you will have to add a part on Major Glyph. Glyph of Polymorph will be a must have, Ice Barrier too. For the Frostfire Glyph, it will be useful if the 70% snare is no required AND with the 33% soft crit cap.

Sorry for the administrative spam, all. Can people with problems try clearing their browser cache? The first link, for example, is set to:

I've cut and pasted that text into Firefox, Chrome, and Internet Explorer. It brings up the wowtal talent calculator with the correct build in all three cases. I can't see why redoing everything for wowhead would make a difference.