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Old 10/12/10, 6:49 AM   #1
Thazzdingo
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Norgannon (EU)
Cataclysm Mage Resources

 

Contents

[top]Introduction



This thread shall contain generic Mage issues and information which affects, or is relevant to, all three Mage specs. If you're looking for discussion on topics such as talent trees or rotations, see the spec specific threads in this forum instead.
Although most things I wanted to cover in this thread are added by now, I always appreciate suggestions you can offer regarding what should be added, and will endeavour to update them into my post.


[top]Useful Links



Talent Calculator
Fire Mage Discussion
Frost Mage Discussion
Arcane Mage Discussion
Simulators and Formulators Discussion
Cataclysm Changes (and more!)


[top]Pros and Cons of the different Specs



Arcane
+ Highest Single Target Damage
+ High Burst Damage
+ 3% Dmg Buff
o AoE
- mobility

Fire
+ Medium Single Target DPS
+ Great mobility due to Firestarter
+ Many AoE capabilities, "AoE burst" with Combustion
+ Good survivability (Cauterize, Molten Shields)
+ 5% Crit Debuff

Frost
+ Quite high Single Target DPS
+ AoE Snares (Freeze, talented Blizzard, 2x Ring of Frost)
+ High survivability (Ice Barrier)
+ Replenishment
o Some mobility because of instants in the usual rotation


[top]Combat Ratings



RatingLevel 60Level 70Level 80Level 81Level 82Level 83Level 84Level 85
Spell Hit812.615426.23234.444845.231859.420478.0218102.446
Crit1422.076945.90660.278479.1556103.986136.53799179.28
Haste1015.769232.7943.05656.539774.275597.5272128.05701
Mastery1422.076945.90660.278479.1556103.986136.53799179.28
Resilience21.562534.002470.703492.8395121.914160.15601210.293276.12299
At level 85, you will need 648.91 Int to gain 1% crit.

Hit Required @ Lvl 85 in T11 content:
Level DifferenceHit Cap %Required Hit Rating
04%410
+15%512
+26%615
+3 (skull level boss)17%1742
(Required Hit Rating in 4.2 does not change.)

Water Elemental scaling:
Health / ManaSpell PowerHit / Crit / HasteCrit Dmg Multiplier
50%40%100%200%
According to blue posts, it will also benefit from mastery "in some way".


[top]Spell Coefficients



The spell coefficient table is outdated. Until I can find new numbers somewhere, i will put the table into spoiler tags.

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Spell Coefficient
  
Direct Damage Spells  
Arcane Barrage 0.7037*
Arcane Blast 0.9723*
Arcane Missiles 0.8579
Arcane Missiles (Talented) 1.0765*
Deep Freeze 2.1431
Fire Blast 0.4294
Fireball 0.9647
Flame Orb 2.0073
Frostbolt 0.7144
Frostfire Bolt 0.8136
Ice Lance 0.3149
Living Bomb (DOT) 0.7989
Pyroblast (DD) 1.1198
Pyroblast (DOT) 0.2996
Scorch 0.4294
  
AOE Spells  
Arcane Explosion 0.0965
Blast Wave 0.1931
Blizzard 0.5752
Cone of Cold 0.2144
Curtain of Frost 0.7144
Dragon's Breath 0.1931
Flamestrike (DD) 0.1465
Flamestrike (DOT) 0.2437
Frost Nova 0.1931
Living Bomb (Explosion) 0.1997
  
Absorption Spells  
Ice Barrier 0.8069
Mage Ward 0.8069
Mana Shield 0.8069

*4.01 live (post nerf)



[top]Raidbuffs



Buffsother
5% Statsx        Kings
828 mp5 x      xMight
5% Crit        xRampage, Leader of the Pack, Honor Among Thieves
Replenishment   x  xx Communion, Revitalize
3% Damage    x    Communion, Ferocious Inspiration
5401 Mana x  xxx   
5% Spell Hastex      xx 
10% Spell Power  x     x 
only 6% Spell Power  x xxx xFlametongue Totem
30% Haste / 40 sec    xxx x 
           
Debuffs          
5% Spell Crit Chance Taken xxx x    
8% Spell Damage Takenxxxx     Ebon Plaguebringer, Master Poisoner
-20% Attack Speed         Thunder Clap, Frost Fever, Infected Wounds, Judgements of the Just


[top]Consumables



Flask: 300 Int for 1 hour
Potion: 1200 SP for 25 sec
Food: 90 Int & 90 Stamina

Because Guardian Elixiers are not available for casters, Combat Elixiers (+225 of a secondary Stat) are not competitive. Regarding food there is of course a new Fish Feast (limited to guild achievment), a single player version with the same buff and the usual Int food.


[top]Gear



For a full list of non-raid gear focused on heroic instances, have a look at this post.

Itemlevels

Item LevelSource
279Blackrock Caverns, Throne of the Tides
316The Stonecore, Vortex Pinnacle
333Grim Batol, Halls of Origination, Lost City of the Tol'Vir, Honored Reputation Rewards
346Heroic Instances, Revered Reputation Rewards
353Troll Instances
359T11 Raids, Craftable Items, Exalted Reputation Rewards
372Heroic T11 Raids
378T12 Raids, Avengers of Hyjal Reputation Rewards - Friendly & Revered, Craftable Items
379Sinestra
384Ragnaros?
391Heroic T12 Raids, Avengers of Hyjal Reputation Rewards - Exalted
397Heroic Ragnaros?
404Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest

[top]Patch 4.1



Reputation Rewards

FactionHonored (333)Revered (346)Exalted (359)
Hellscream's Reach / Baradin's Wardens[Baradin Footman's Tags][Insidious Staff][Stump of Time]
Guardians of Hyjal-(head enchant)-
Ramkahen-[Robes of Orsis][Desert Walker Sandals]
The Earthen Ring[Helm of Temperance][Cloak of Ancient Wisdom][Flamebloom Gloves]
Therazane(rare shoulders enchant)[Diamant's Ring of Temperance](epic shoulders enchant)
Dragonmaw Clan / Wildhammer Clan[Gloves of Aetherial Rumors][Band of Singing Grass][Lightning Flash Pendant]

Crafted BoE Items (+Darkmoon Faire Trinket)

Item (359)SourceItem (346)Source
[Dreamless Belt]Tailoring[Elementium Spellblade]Blacksmithing
[Breeches of Mended Nightmares]Tailoring[Eye of Many Deaths]Jewelcrafting
[Flame-Ascended Pantaloons]Tailoring[Ring of Warring Elements]Jewelcrafting
[Darkmoon Card: Volcano]Darkmoon Faire[Dungeoneering Guide]Inscription

Archaeology Items: [Staff of Sorcerer-Thane Thaurissan], [Ring of the Boy Emperor], [Tyrande's Favorite Doll].

Justice Points

SlotPointsItem (346)
Head2200[Cowl of Pleasant Gloom]
Neck1250[String of Beaded Bubbles]
Shoulder1650[Meadow Mantle]
Chest2200[Robes of Embalmed Darkness]
Hands1650[Gloves of the Painless Midnight]
Waist1650[Incense Infused Cumberbund]
Legs2200[Pensive Legwraps]
Off-Hand950[Hermit's Lamp]

Justice Points (former Valor Points Rewards)

SlotPointsItem (359)
Back1250[Haunt of Flies]
Feet1650[Melodious Slippers]
Finger1250[Band of Secret Names]
Trinket1650[Soul Casket]
   
Head1 [Firelord's Hood]
Shoulders1 [Firelord's Mantle]
Chest2200[Firelord's Robes]
Hands1650[Firelord's Gloves]
Legs2200[Firelord's Leggings]

The heroic version of the Chest, Hands and Leg T11 Tokens drop of early heroic encounters. These tokens can also be purchased with Essence of the Forlorn (Al'Akir).

For heroic raid loots, have a look at this list at mmo-champion.

Tier 11 Set Bonuses

2P Bonus: Increases the critical strike chance of Arcane Missiles, Ice Lance, and Pyroblast by 5%.
4P Bonus: Reduces the cast time of Arcane Blast, Arcane Barrage, Fireball, Frostfire Bolt, and Frostbolt by 10%.


[top]Patch 4.2



Reputation and Valor Points Rewards will be upgradeable to heroic itemlevel.

Reputation Rewards

FactionFriendly (378)Honored (378)Revered (378)Exalted (391)
Avengers of Hyjal[Rippling Flamewrath Drape][Embereye Belt][Rune of Zeth][Infernal Signet of the Avengers]

(Daily) Quest Rewards

NPCItem (365)
ThrallMantle of Desire (Thrall questchain)
Zen'VorkaNightweaver's Amulet (Firelands questchain, early available)
Damek BloombeardWidow's Clutches
Ayla ShadowstormMoonwell Chalice
Varlan HighboughSpirit Fragment Band

Crafted BoE Items

Item (378)SourceItem (365)Source
[Boots of the Black Flame]Tailoring[Masterwork Elementium Spellblade]Blacksmithing (Daily Vendor Plan)
[Don Tayo's Inferno Mittens]Tailoring  

Valor Points

SlotPointsItem (378)
Wand700[Trail of Embers]
Wrist1250[Emberflame Bracers]
Neck1250[Amulet of Burning Brilliance]
Finger1250[Crystalline Brimstone Ring]

Heroic Raid Loot Table @ MMO

Tier 12 Set Bonuses

2P Bonus: You have a chance to summon a Mirror Image to assist you in battle for 15 sec when you cast Frostbolt, Fireball, Frostfire Bolt, or Arcane Blast.
4P Bonus: Your spells have an increased chance to trigger Brain Freeze or Hot Streak. In addition, Arcane Power decreases the cost of your damaging spells by 10% instead of increasing their cost.


[top]Item Enhancements



[top]Enchants



SlotEnchantNotes
Head60 Int & 35 CritGuardians of Hyjal - Revered
Shoulders50 Int & 25 HasteTherazane - Exalted
Back65 Crit or 50 Int 
Chest20 All Stats(PvP: 40 Resilience)
Wrist50 Int 
Hand65 Mastery or 50 HasteConsider 28 SP here (wotlk)
Waist1 SocketMade by Blacksmithing
Legs95 Int & 80 StaminaMade by Tailoring
FeetMovement speed & 35 Masteryno runspeed: 50 Hit, 50 Mastery, 50 Haste
Main Hand500 Int for 12 sec 
Off Hand40 Int 

[top]Gems



Burning Shadowspirit Diamond (54 Intellect / 3% Crit Damage) - "requires" 3 red gems

redorangeyellowgreenbluepurple
40 Int20 Int & 20 Crit40 Crit20 Crit & 20 Hit40 Hit20 Int & 20 Hit
 20 Int & 20 Haste40 Haste20 Haste & 20 Hit  
 20 Int & 20 Mastery40 Mastery20 Mastery & 20 Hit  


[top]Profession Bonuses



Engineering
There is a major change in how engineering enchants work: The use effects do not overwrite the usual enchant anymore.
Synapse Springs: 480 Int for 10 sec (4.0.6) on a 1 min cooldown results in 80 additional Int.
Nitro Boosts have their crit bonus removed and are applied to your belt. Due to the high amount of malfunctions, it is dangerous to use them in raids or battle grounds. Belt tinkers do not work in arenas or rated bgs. Personally I don't like the idea of making the speed bonus depend on payed racial changes instead of professions...
Lightweight Bio-Optic Killshades with special engineering sockets. You can choose from different cogwheels, each granting 208 of a different (yellow- or blue-gem) combat stat. The resulting values match non heroic T11 raid loot, so this item will only help in the first progression phase.

Tailoring
Lightweave Embroidery: 580 Int for 15 sec, 35% procc chance, ~64 sec internal cooldown. Asuming maximum uptime we get an average of 133.8 Int instead of the 50 Int (+83.8) enchant. The effective gain is, of course, less than that value!

Jewelcrafting
3x 67 Int Gem results in +81 Int over 3x Brilliant Inferno Ruby. There are also Gems for each combat rating with the same profit.

Blacksmithing
The two additional sockets Socket Bracer and Socket Gloves result in 80 Int, or whatever stat you can gem for.

Alchemy
Mixology adds 80 Int to your Flask of the Draconic Mind and doubles the duration.

Enchanting
2x Enchant Ring - Intellect for another 80 Int.

Inscription
Felfire Inscription adds 80 Int to Greater Inscription of Charged Lodestone, which also saves you some reputation farming

Leatherworking
Draconic Embossment - Intellect: 130 Int instead of 50 Int (+80).

Herbalism
Lifeblood: 480 Haste for 20 sec on a 2 min cooldown works out to 80 Haste. *

Skinning
Master of Anatomy - 80 Crit. *

Mining
Toughness will only help tank mages.

* The benefits of Herbalism and Skinning depend on relative stat values and thus cannot be compared directly to the other professions. Due to the low values of combat rating in the early tiers, these professions are not yet competitive.


[top]Racial Bonuses



[top]Alliance


Draenei
Heroic Presence: +1% Hit

Dwarf
none

Gnome
Expansive Mind: +5% Mana pool
Escape Artist: Removes snares and slows

Human
Every Man for Himself: Removes movement impairing effects amd silences.

Night Elf
none

Worgen
Viciousness: +1% Critical Strike chance


[top]Horde


Blood Elf
Arcane Torrent: 6% Mana restore (2min CD)

Forsaken
Will of the Forsaken: Removes Charm, Fear and Sleep effects

Goblin
Time is Money: +1% Haste
Rocket Barrage: xxx fire damage (2min CD)

Orc
Blood Fury: 584 SP / 15s (2min CD), ~73 SP
Command: +5% Pet's Damage

Troll
Berserking: 20% Haste / 10s (3min CD), ~1,1% Haste
Beast Slaying: 5% Damage versus Beast


Latest Changes
- Updated for 4.2: New Craftables, new Reputation Rewards & new Item Levels added
- Some more quest items added

Last edited by Thazzdingo : 07/02/11 at 4:16 PM.

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Old 10/12/10, 11:44 AM   #2
Katatonia
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Durotan
Engineering:
Synapse Springs - Glove tinker for 480 int for 12 seconds, 1 minute cooldown. Average of 96 int.
Springy Arachnoweave - 27 spell power. New Cataclysm cloak tinkers don't add any dps so you're stuck with the old one.
Z50 Mana Gulper - Belt tinker that adds some sort of click effect that makes Mythical Mana Potions better. Exact effect is unknown, but I'd assume it's a flat increase in how much mana you get.

Nitro Boosts still exist too, but the crit rating part of the effect was removed.

And the most important part is that tinkers now stack with normal enchants. I guess after years of being the quirky, "flavor" profession it's finally time for Engineering to be the best one of all (for a while at least).

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Old 10/12/10, 12:44 PM   #3
sierran
Banned
 
Gnome Mage
 
Proudmoore
Looks like Tailoring and Engineering will be our goto professions for Cataclysm. Time for me to go level up!

A section on Masteries would be nice - explaining the different types, etc.

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Old 10/12/10, 12:46 PM   #4
Gilthanor
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Blood Elf Mage
 
Boulderfist
Originally Posted by sierran View Post
Looks like Tailoring and Engineering will be our goto professions for Cataclysm. Time for me to go level up!

A section on Masteries would be nice - explaining the different types, etc.
That's not the point of this thread, which is just a general resource for mages of all specs. You want this thread.

Well I was going to mention Cogwheels and Hydraulic Pumps, but apparently these only work with the engineering-only headpieces. Might be something for the early game.

Cataclysm Beta: Engineering Preview - World of Raids Forums

Last edited by Gilthanor : 10/12/10 at 12:52 PM.

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Old 10/12/10, 1:33 PM   #5
ChronoKill
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Sargeras
It might be worth noting that you're going to need more hit rating as you advance in tiers. The 1742 hit rating you quoted might only be sufficient for 5man heroics and the entry raid tier.

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Old 10/12/10, 1:50 PM   #6
 ash2ash
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Undead Mage
 
Mal'Ganis
Originally Posted by Katatonia View Post
And the most important part is that tinkers now stack with normal enchants. I guess after years of being the quirky, "flavor" profession it's finally time for Engineering to be the best one of all (for a while at least).
Is springy arachnoweave still exclusive with lightweave embroidery, or can they both be applied?

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Old 10/12/10, 2:10 PM   #7
Roywyn
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Roywyn
Gnome Mage
 
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Intellect-to-crit: 648.91 intellect / 1% crit, might add that to the first table, from Combat Ratings at level 85 (Cataclysm) table below "intellect needed". Also, Water Elemental scaling: 50% HP/Mana, 40% spell power, 100% hit/crit/haste, crits for 150% damage.

Also, until you reach 10k spell spower or more, you will spam intellect gems because ratings are that weak. I put some details into a spoiler tag to avoid thread clutter.

Click Here ← Click Here

Ugh, I had totally missed that they went back to the silly "more blue than yellow" requirement. Since you can still whatever you want (the only penalty is losing the socket bonus), it'll be back to spinel spam for a while.

The reasoning is as follows: 102 spell hit is 1% hit. 102 intellect is 1% damage if you have 10200 spell power and base damage, it also adds 1530 mana and ~0.16% crit. (Info: There was a crit conversion somewhere, ~615int/1% or so, might add that number.) Haste and Crit are obviously worse than hit, Mastery most likely as well.

So, let's assume you start with 6k spell power? Int is 50% better than hit probably twice as good as anything else. Let's look at the epic ilvl 359 set: Firelord's Vestments - Item Set - World of Warcraft or anything with gems Items - World of Warcraft

Head - 1 blue for 30 crit, take it (20Mast+30Crit>=20Int, very likely); Shoulders - 1 red, easy peasy; Chest - 1 red + 1 blue for 20 int, another no-brainer (lose 20, gain 20); Gloves - 1 yellow, unlikely (30Mast<20Int, most likely, especially with CSD requirements); Leggings - 1 red + 1 yellow for 20 int, again. Feet - 1 yellow for 10Hit or 10Crit, very unlikely.

Hm, no that's pretty tricky to handle really. The ability to reforge simply means that the ratings are interchangeable, and "gem for hit and reforge excess hit" means "gem for <rating> and instead fo int" and is not advisable below ~15k SP or so. On the other hand, once you have enough gear that matching sockets is viable, you'll also have a lot of hit rating (unless the bosses' anti-hit scaling is extremely strong) and the blue hit gems that you need for your socket bonus suddenly are not that useful any more. I think it's going to work out in the end, it's just very counterintuitive.

Also, is there anything that prevents you from using the old CSD ("at least 2 blue gems") besides the cost of -33 crit rating? I don't believe it will be worth (due to the odd constraints, see above), just for completion perhaps?

Chaotic Meta Gems in Cataclysm: http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t106009-...2/#post1794256

DPS spec and class comparison in Naxxramas gear: http://code.google.com/p/simulationc...i/SampleOutput
The Blue Bar and you - the complete Fire Mage 2.4 mana compendium: http://elitistjerks.com/658230-post3191.html

And [Timbal's Focusing Crystal] doesn't proc on AM.
Neither does [The Egg of Mortal Essence] since 3.1.

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Old 10/12/10, 9:56 PM   #8
Thazzdingo
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Norgannon (EU)
Originally Posted by ash2ash View Post
Is springy arachnoweave still exclusive with lightweave embroidery, or can they both be applied?
In the current beta, the SP bonus of Springy Arachnoweave is overwritten by all kinds of enchants while the parachute remains. Because the cataclysm enchants are much better than 27 SP, you won't use them no matter if you are a tailor or not.
Edit: This changed in the live version. You still have the SP bonus after adding an enchant to your back.

I added Engineering to the Profession Bonuses in the OP, as well as some numbers to the Rating Tables - thanks Katatonia and Roywyn.

Last edited by Thazzdingo : 10/14/10 at 8:16 PM.

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Old 10/13/10, 11:33 PM   #9
Logix
Piston Honda
 
Undead Mage
 
Tichondrius
When possible, please update the coefficients table with Arcane's new coefficients:

Arcane Blast: 1.0569
Arcane Barrage: 0.7649
Arcane Missiles (talented, over 5): 1.1699

These values are consistent with the current state of Arcane in the beta.


Furthermore, I am not sure if the "x/3.5" part is relevant anymore. From what I can tell so far, there is no longer any logic holding the coefficients together in this form.

Perhaps there is some alternate arithmetic from which a clean, rational form of the spell coefficients can be deduced? If anyone has figured this out, please do share. I think I speak for a significant number of mages when I say that the mess being created with these rather arcane values for the coefficients is just giving us all a headache.

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Old 10/14/10, 10:22 AM   #10
emopriest
Glass Joe
 
Undead Mage
 
Lightninghoof
Originally Posted by emopriest View Post
I'm trying to decide if I want to drop tailoring for engineering in cata. I haven't yet because of cata making it easier to level, but I'm still hesitant to let enchanting go because of the usefulness of it.
Did some more number crunching, and here's what I came up with. Keep in mind, this is focused on keeping enchanting as your other profession.

So the gloves add on 96 int, compare this to the tailoring emoroidery, which results in 140.5 int, which I think the math is actually off because I'm pretty sure it's only 580 instead of 590, but I didn't want to rework the math for this comparison.

Assuming we add the 27 sp to the cloak from eng, then that is 21.90 int, so we are now up to 117.90 int from eng, compared to the 140.5 from tailoring.

If nitro boots are having their crit removed competely and they are really just a speed boost every 3 min, then I can't see any real benefit to them.

The gulper would be nice, but I hope that this wouldn't be one or the other for the belt buckle, if it can be added on additionaly, then it would depend on the additional amount gained for proper estimation.

Which comes down to the hydraulic socket. If this is available on only engineered items, then it would depend on the possible boss drops from future raid bosses, and if more hydraulic gems are added. Currently I am only seeing 208 hit and 208 spirit. If they add 208 int then I think the choice is clear, but again, once the helm gets replaced and no future items with hydraulic sockets are added, I still see tailoring being a better choice overall when compared to enchanting as your other profession.

Thoughts?

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Old 10/14/10, 4:41 PM   #11
Logix
Piston Honda
 
Undead Mage
 
Tichondrius
Pardon my bad luck, but just as I posted the new arcane coefficients in my last post, Blizzard went ahead and changed them late last night.

Apologies, but if possible, please update the Arcane coefficients again

The new arcane coefficients are:

Arcane Blast: 0.9723
Arcane Barrage: 0.7037
Arcane Missiles (talented, over 5): 1.0765

As a side note, the 3 main arcane spells had their coefficients and base damage reduced by approximately 8%. Does Zaldinar or Lhivera have the new numbers for Fire and Frost? Lets keep the main post in this thread updated.

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Old 10/14/10, 10:14 PM   #12
Thazzdingo
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Norgannon (EU)
I added a list of mage specific raidbuffs & -debuffs - it would be nice if it gets double checked

Originally Posted by emopriest View Post
Which comes down to the hydraulic socket. If this is available on only engineered items, then it would depend on the possible boss drops from future raid bosses, and if more hydraulic gems are added. Currently I am only seeing 208 hit and 208 spirit. If they add 208 int then I think the choice is clear, but again, once the helm gets replaced and no future items with hydraulic sockets are added, I still see tailoring being a better choice overall when compared to enchanting as your other profession.
I'm quite sure that the hydraulic sockets only affect the crafted items. These do not have combat ratings on them, but the value of the 2 hydraulic sockets matches exactly the value other items have on the same itemlevel. Why did Blizzard add these sockets? Instead of adding one cloth helmet for healers, a second one for DDs who favor crit and maybe a thrid one for those who want to have some more haste, Blizzard just let's the choice to the engineer and one item fits for all of them.


Originally Posted by emopriest View Post
Assuming we add the 27 sp to the cloak from eng, then that is 21.90 int, so we are now up to 117.90 int from eng, compared to the 140.5 from tailoring.
I fixed the calculation on Lightweave Embroidery. The thing that's missing in your calculation is, that Embroideries do not stack with enchants. That means, while Lightweave Embroidery adds roughly 138 Int, you're loosing the 50 Int enchant at the same time. And then you're back at 88 Int, which is similiar to the other professions if you take the procc rate and the minor benefits of Intellect over SP into account.

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Old 10/16/10, 9:11 PM   #13
DeadNite
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Blackhand
Originally Posted by emopriest View Post
Which comes down to the hydraulic socket. If this is available on only engineered items, then it would depend on the possible boss drops from future raid bosses, and if more hydraulic gems are added. Currently I am only seeing 208 hit and 208 spirit. If they add 208 int then I think the choice is clear, but again, once the helm gets replaced and no future items with hydraulic sockets are added...
Caster Related Cogwheels
Fractured Cogwheel - +208 Mastery Rating
Quick Cogwheel - +208 Haste Rating
Rigid Cogwheel - +208 Hit Rating
Smooth Cogwheel - +208 Critical Strike Rating
Sparkling Cogwheel - +208 Spirit

These are what I have come across so far. I have also noticed that the current Engineering helms have 2 of these sockets.

Lightweight Bio-Optic Killshades
Binds when picked up
Head - Cloth
1016 Armor
+512 Stamina
+301 Intellect
Meta Socket
Cogwheel Socket
Cogwheel Socket

Socket Bonus: +20 Intellect
Durability 100 / 100
Requires Level 81
Requires Engineering (525)
Item Level 359

Compare that to the T11 helm...

Firelord's Hood
Binds when picked up
Head Cloth
1016 Armor
+512 Stamina
+281 Intellect
Meta Socket
Blue Socket

Socket Bonus: +30 Critical Strike Rating

Durability 100 / 100
Classes: Mage
Requires Level 85
Item Level 359
Equip: Improves haste rating by 188 (3.98% @ L85).
Equip: Increases your mastery rating by 208.

Lets assume you standard Meta @ 85 regardless of requirements with a 208 Mastery, 208 Haste Cog, with a 20int/20hit purple gem in T11...

Engi Helm
+20 Intellect
+20 Haste
-30 Crit
-20 Hit

Not sure it would be worth it as the T11 Helm has more reforging possibilities. Or should I say it actually HAS reforging possibilities. Also not really sure how the new tiering system will work as far as if there will be anything higher then 359 via a token upgrade. Only thing higher I have spotted is PvP gear.

Last edited by DeadNite : 10/16/10 at 10:16 PM.

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Old 10/17/10, 12:43 PM   #14
Gilthanor
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Mage
 
Boulderfist
Originally Posted by DeadNite View Post
Stuff about engineering helms.
I'm not sure the WoWhead DB is correct. It's at odds with the one on WorldofRaids, in which they have one Cogwheel and one Hydraulic Pump socket, so you can choose one from the Mastery, Haste, Crit, Dodge, Parry, Expertise set, and another from the Hit or Spirit set.

Cataclysm Beta: Engineering Preview - World of Raids Forums

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Old 10/17/10, 4:21 PM   #15
Roywyn
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Roywyn
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Haste and DoT spells

To get "n" additional ticks on your DoT, you need enough total haste to grant you enough time for "n-0.5" additional ticks. Assuming your DoT ticks "t" times without haste, then your total haste "h" would have to be "h > (n-0.5)/t", where "1+h = (1+haste_rating%)*(1+netherwind_talent)*(1+haste_totem)*(1+heroism)*(1+icy_veins)*... " as usual.

The shortest description would probably be "To get n additional ticks from a DoT with t ticks baseline, you need a total haste of (n-0.5)/t.". This gives haste some desirable breakpoints to reach where your DPS makes a jump when you get an extra tick. Not sure whether Evocation gains extra ticks or not.

Chaotic Meta Gems in Cataclysm: http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t106009-...2/#post1794256

DPS spec and class comparison in Naxxramas gear: http://code.google.com/p/simulationc...i/SampleOutput
The Blue Bar and you - the complete Fire Mage 2.4 mana compendium: http://elitistjerks.com/658230-post3191.html

And [Timbal's Focusing Crystal] doesn't proc on AM.
Neither does [The Egg of Mortal Essence] since 3.1.

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