Hey,

a little question.
which trinkt is your favorite for arkan
Muradin's Spyglass reforgeed to Haste or
Reign of the Unliving

Reign of the Unliving gievs 2k Mana Crit and SP

i testing the two trinkets @ the dummy and i not differnt the max dps.

If/when they nerf arcane, I suspect arcane blast is going to be the target. Even if mana costs were higher and AB4 spam hurt us more than it does now (which should be the case in Cata), I just can't imagine that even fully stacked AB with cooldowns is supposed to crit for twice as much as Deep Freeze.

I still hope that arcane gets fleshed out in a future content patch, because even while it's doing obscene amounts of damage, I'm not enjoying the gameplay. Any given encounter consists of doing your bland single target rotation (which is only slightly more engaging than my TBC Destro Warlock) or standing near the tank and spamming AE. While I hope.arcane is competitive at level 85, I find myself hoping its never a clear #1 on single target dps that would force me to play what I consider to be the least engaging spec.

hey hey i found somy glyph inconsistencies;

you say that arcane missiles glyph is Prime- it is not its Major

Actually as soon as the int changes took place I was immediately thinking about that trinket. Im currently rocking DFL and Muradin's, Im wondering if the int to SP and the extra burst will beat mura out in the course of an entire fight. That loss of crit however and the sustained sp numbers may not. Now if what i read is correct (someone please edit if it isnt) Int is scaling at basically a 1:1 ratio with SP and a 1:0.005 with crit. So from the SP side your going from 180 sustained dps with Muradins to 128 with resurgance, but are getting the extra bust for our burn cycle. I would be curious to see how this from a SP side alone scales during the course of an entire fight. The big loss, however is obviously the crit. I may try our resurg tonight to test numbers versus mura, I'm just curious if it surpasses it with the changes.

I am going to do some testing tonight on the Talisman of Resurgence. I am currently using Maghia's Quill to get me back to hit cap and Reign of the Dead. I am wondering if having the extra 599 spell power for the burn phase will work out to better DPS than the proc on Reign of the Dead.

Right now...I miss rawr.

I would imagine, post-4.0.1, at least a few players will be establishing Trial of the Crusader groups just to have another shot at Reign of the Unliving/Dead. To stick to the topic at hand, (do bear in mind this is anecdotal observation), I'm finding I get better results from Flamestrike-Arcane Explosion (with the talent 2/2) on Frozen Halls trash than Flamestrike/Blizzard. Assuming the mana consumption from either of these is roughly equal, which I'm not yet sure is the case, it might simply boil down to playstyle/personal preference or perhaps using Flamestrike/Blizz on a pull where you risk cleaves or other PBAoE by standing too closely.

On a personal-preference note, though, I wait to begin the first "burn phase" (on a single-target boss or raid encounter) until I've consumed approximately enough mana that the use of a mana gem as part of the "burn" cooldowns puts me back at 97%-100%.

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Initial adjustment/nerfbat applied. Mage and frost touched, but not as much as Fire. I imagine AB was the primary issue - interesting to see how this affects the burn duration/crit numbers.

I have just completed my investigation.

It seems both the base damage and coefficients for all 3 arcane spells was reduced by approximately 8%.

The new arcane coefficients are:

Arcane Blast: 0.9723
Arcane Barrage: 0.7037
Arcane Missiles (talented, over 5): 1.0765

I will be making these changes and will hopefully have an updated version of MMS (including a level 80 toggle) by the end of the day. Stay tuned.

That being said, from the math I have done so far, these changes have no discernible impact on the optimal strategy for Arcane. It's basically just a global damage reduction.

The return of Polymorph -- It's rumored that the new pulls will be challenging once again, such that CC will be needed (when's the last time we sheeped anything other than a Cow or a WG player?)

Given that, a consideration may be to poly-glyph.

Just a thought.

Trix

Are we sure on that formula for Mana Adept? This seems to be that as long as we have more than 0 mana, and more than 0 mastery, we will always be doing over 100% damage (100% being before training mastery.)

With arcane now needing 17% hit and having burn phases every 2 minutes I've been actually considering [Maghia's Misguided Quill] as a viable trinket. I would reforge the hit to mastery, and would have a very nice 716 SP addition to each burn phase. I currently use 277 [Dislodged Foreign Object] and [Muradin's Spyglass], but also have access to the Talisman and 245 Reign.

I don't actually need the hit from the trinket, but if I had it I would just reforge hit off some other pieces. I'm mostly attracted by the 716 sp for each burn phase. I also know people were considering [Talisman of Resurgence] which doesn't give as much sp for burn phases, but has a nice int boost instead. Do you think the int would outweigh the extra sp and crit/haste we could reforge to from gaining hit on the quill?

I was also laboring under the old views of haste > crit for arcane but it looks like its no longer the case. I reforged all my gear to mastery and for most pieces it was the crit I reforged. I switched to haste when I was at 33% crit unbuffed, but do you guys think we should just reforge haste across the board and stack crit as well as int/crit gems in yellow? Also the idea of using molten armor for burn phases is very interesting, especially since we can glyph it as well as mage armor with the current bug.