Even before that, if I look correctly at the number, at 10k spell power, a casted Pyroblast do 14.7k DPET versus 9.8k for Fireball.

But now with a 18s DOT, there's more chance to have an instant for refresh it.

PS: Is mage on SIMC working ?

While I disagree with your specific numbers, the concept of Pyroblast DPET being greater than Fireball's is correct and has been addressed.

According to wowhead's current tooltips, Pyroblast's DPET not including the DoT, at 10, 000 Spellpower, would be:

[3172 + (3.048 * 10,000)]/3.5 = 9614

Where Fireball's would be:

[1873 + (1.8 * 10,000)]/2.25 = 8832

So Pyroblast's DPET will go down to (9614 * .8) = 7691

Been doing some raid testing as fire over the past few weeks and just wondering if anyone has any feedback on the following:

1) Alter time - seems a bit buggy at the moment as to what we recieve back, and have also had (i assume a bug) where i click alter time with full health and half mana, alter time procs and i recieve 10 health and the correct mana?

2) Alter time optimal usuage - been utilising it as fire with time left on lust/time warp and with a pyro proc up so that when it runs off you get the extra time with lust/time warp and the pyro proc up. Does give you double lust debuffs which is quite cute
As arcane been using it to obtain extra time on lust + arcane power + missle procs
Not tested with frost

3) Living bomb vs Nether Tempest as fire - any one with simulations on the numbers? Living bomb looking optimal to me for single target and multi target fights for fire but not had a chance to run multiple dps tests yet or simulations

4) Rune of Power vs Evocation - buggy spawn time on beta at the moment and also very non optimal on a lot of the MoP fights as there is a lot of movement which means you are out of the rune a lot. Is this this optimal over evocation?


Hoping to see the threads start becoming more active in the coming weeks with MoP coming soon

In my beta testing (as frost) yesterday every single fight had too much movement and significant enough predictable raid damage, making incanter's ward to be the best of the three level 90 options. Unfortunately, invocation's requirement that you must complete the evocation in order to receive the buff seems very restrictive given the hectic nature of a number of the fights. In addition, the evocation -must- complete and thus queueing another spell at the end of the channel can prove risky as should you clip it by even a tenth of a second, you get nothing.

However, invocation is a great choice if your job is going to be bursting a target that takes increased damage or needs to die ASAP, if the target's spawn or the burst period is predictable and there's no raid damage going out. You'd just evocate and have a guaranteed damage buff to hit the target with. I can definitely see myself taking it on a few of the heroic fights.

Rune of power worked fine for me. It synergizes well with the Ice Floes talent, which is easy to take as frost since scorch is somewhat unnecessary in that spec from what I can discern thus far. I just found that there wasn't a single fight where I could remain in one or even two specific positions for long enough to have 100% uptime with a max of two recasts per minute.

I found frost to be extremely strong on several of the fights (stone guard, garalon), but weak on some such as tsulong. Frost with glyphed ice lance is extremely strong on any fight where there are multiple targets in close proximity which must die, obviously.

Alter Time didn't seem to be working correctly with the default blizzard UI auras for FoF. Using it with two FoF charges, when your previous state returns your aura will only show one charge, but your FoF buff will have two. Alter Time is also ludicrously overpowered on some fights such as Tsulong where you can use it as an off-GCD blink - use it, go to a sunbeam to reset your debuff stacks, get ported back to where you were minus stacks (despite the fact it's supposed to return your previous debuffs). I did not find Alter Time to be giving me double sated debuffs or working to extend the duration of heroism/bloodlust/any other buffs as frost, which is likely a bug.

There's other good analysis on the official forum:
Mage level 90 Talent choices are negative - Forums - World of Warcraft

glyph of Fireblast
With Living bomb, the difference between spreading or multi-doting is only 0.5s. But it's really a good choice because you don't have to switch target.

How about the lack of damage increase from Fire Specialization ? Does it still worths to be taken?

There is no fire specialization.

But yes, the Glyph of Fireblast + Living Bomb not only saves 0.5s, but also adds the damage of a fireblast.

It's not optimal because Fireblast are weaker than Frostbolt.

But wht you describe can be use for rapid AOE on low life mobs.

Question about hit rating.

Hit needed for a level 88 mob (boss) according to the tooltip is somewhere around 7.40% wich is clearely bugged but even with 17.05% wich is my current hit chance, I still miss 3 LB's in a row on training dummies. Is there something that changed or just a bug?

Question about the new Arcane rotation:

Icy Veins say that Arcane Missiles should be woven in with Arcane Blast when it procs while stacking charges (AC). Weaving spells implies equal DPS, which is unlikely. I consider that AM has either higher or lower DPS than AB. Thankfully the AC buff is the same.

My position is:

If AM has higher DPS than AB, it should be fired at full AC stacks for maximum effectiveness. It also has excellent DPM at this.
-or-
If AM has lower DPS than AB, it should be fired after a barrage to stack ACs ready for AB to take over

My question is, is my theory correct and if so, which is it? I see strong DPS spikes on my recount while firing AM but I haven't done this with a full suite of raid buffs. This makes me think I should be casting AM at the top of my AC stacks.

Of course there is the question of not losing procs, in which case it might be prudent to take the FoF approach - always fire at 2 procs but only clear the last one at full AC stacks.

The Hit cap is 15% on level+3 target. It's 1536 Hit rating at level 85. It will be 5100 at level 90 if it not change since then.

Arcane Missiles should always be prioritized over Arcane Blast and Arcane Barrage. But you can go fishing for the second charges.
Why Arcane Missiles is so good?
It can benefit from Arcane Charge, can do better damage and it free cost.