[Mists of Pandaria] Mage Simple Questions and Answers (Read the First Post) - Page 2

DKH · 12/24/12, 8:50 PM

I'd very much like to know if there is any reliable place to discuss how Arcane perfoms, now that it is fairly superior on single target fights atleast.

I'm very confused on when Haste pulls ahead, depending on your gear and when Mastery becomes superior (with heroic gear as far as I know).

• Heef · 12/26/12, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by roninmartyr

I see the fire mage spec link but there isn't one for Frost or Arc? Is there plan for the thread runner to add these or are they just common google search options?

Pardon my ignorance I haven't played mage in a while and plan on coming back.

Thread authors for Arcane and Frost have not yet presented themselves. Hopefully they will, but at this time, they haven't yet surfaced. Thread authors are on a volunteer basis here, and several of the primary authors from past expansions have retired, so we have a void that hasn't yet been filled.

Moonfaxx · 01/30/13, 2:05 PM

Is [Glyph of Slow] capable of proccing Arcane Missiles?

Doroteasenjk · 01/30/13, 3:06 PM

Originally Posted by Moonfaxx

Is [Glyph of Slow] capable of proccing Arcane Missiles?

All research indicates that having the glyph present does not increase the proc rate from just using Arcane Blast.

Moonfaxx · 01/30/13, 6:02 PM

Originally Posted by Doroteasenjk

All research indicates that having the glyph present does not increase the proc rate from just using Arcane Blast.

Do you have a source you can provide?

Doroteasenjk · 01/31/13, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Moonfaxx

Do you have a source you can provide?

I should have said, "All my research ...". I was curious during beta after reading:

Arcane Brilliance: Mists of Pandaria mage glyph guide

and did several minutes of testing. From

Arcane Missiles | Lhivera’s Library

we can see a 30% proc rate of Arcane Missiles. Casting 180 AB with no other spells should yield 54 procs. That's what I got +/- 2 with and without the glyph.

It didn't occur to me to cast Slow by itself and see if it procced Arcane Missiles, as Slow is not, per se, a harmful spell. Is that what happened for you?

Marvil · 02/05/13, 7:35 AM

Regarding the standard Arcane Rune of Power rotation, can anybody explain why all guides say that mastery is the way to go and nearly all mages stack mastery?

I've done quite a number of simcraft simulations of my mage and other mages with average item levels from 475 to over 500 using the standard Rune of Power action list. Haste always had higher scale factors than mastery, regardless of whether they were mastery build (nearly all) or haste build (they do exist).

There was only one mage where haste was not better but equal to mastery. It was a haste build mage with more than 11000 haste and mastery seemed to slowly take over.

Is there anything I'm missing?

kalezaar · 02/08/13, 10:46 PM

I have a simple gear question. I'm a lvl 90 arcane mage and am trying to decide if it is worth replacing one trinket for another.
Keeping Relic of Yulon in place, I'm considering replacing LFR version of "ESSENCE OF TERROR" with the VP trink SHOCK CHARGER MEDALLION.

Quick stat breakdown (Int. 16,619)....(SP 25,622)....(hit 15 %)....haste(3349 7.88%)...crit (16.92%0 and Mast (48.08 %)

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Marvil · 02/10/13, 7:53 AM

Essence of Terror has approximately 20% uptime on the Haste buff so that's 6121*0.2 = 1224 Haste (and 1021 Int).
If you use the Medallion on cooldown you have 25% uptime on the Int buff -> 3838*0.25 = 960 Int (and 1152 Haste)

Comparing these numbers, Essence of Terror gives you more Int and more Haste. If you go for Haste, it's not as good as EoT.

For the standard Mastery build you can reforge some of the Medallion's Haste to Mastery and then it's taking over. The Arcane guide at MMO-Champion's forums has a nice simcraft trinket chart for the Mastery build and in this chart, reforged Medallion is better than EoT LFR version.

You won't know for sure if you don't simulate it for your mage yourself though. In both cases they're pretty close and things can change with your current stat weights.

Quattroroveri · 04/30/13, 8:26 AM

Is there any "accepted"breakpoint of crit to decide if switch from frost to fire?

What are your thoughts on Arcane both in patchwerk and skelter?

Nandchan · 05/03/13, 2:00 PM

Edit: Moved this to the more appropriate thread, as it's not exactly a simple question to answer.

Ivanvenove · 05/17/13, 6:06 AM

Is there any need of a macro forcing my water elemental to cast waterbolt? like he is not spell queuing his casts properly.

rh8452 · 05/19/13, 11:16 PM

Water elemental in assist stance should not have casting issues, or at least won't have any more casting issues than it would have by macro'ing /petattack into frostbolt or whatever. Sometimes water elemental in assist stance will stop a cast and requeue if you are switching targets frequently or target something behind you.

Dejah-Thoris · 05/20/13, 2:51 PM

5.3 addresses the Water Elemental casting issue. From the patch notes:

The following summoned pets/totems will now chain cast their spells with no delay between casts, allowing them to cast their spells more frequently in the same amount of time.
Death Knight: Gargoyle
Druid: Force of Nature (Balance, Restoration), Mirror Image (Symbiosis)
Mage: Mirror Image, Water Elemental
Shaman: Searing Totem
Warlock: Doomguard, Terrorguard, Wild Imp

Mopatop · 05/21/13, 10:03 AM

In 5.3 the damage of Arcane Explosion has been increased by 40%. Does anyone know what the number-of-targets threshold for this spell over single target is now?