Vontre's Magegraf, advanced theorycrafting tool for mages. - Page 8

◊ Vontre · 06/10/09, 7:03 PM

Updated for latest info as of 5/10/09. It's been updated for a while, just lost track of this thread.

Edit: Also, this should be moved to the mage forum as I know longer have time to support other casters.

solkid21 · 06/29/09, 5:47 PM

Just wondering when you will be updating to the t8 sets

◊ Vontre · 07/11/09, 3:20 PM

I don't see the need to infract that, it's a legit question.

T8 sets should be in now. Also, I did a major major revamp which greatly improved accuracy, load times and readability. Unfortunately there are no more graphs. Now there's a table! I could rename this thing to magetable, I guess.

Also I added stat weights!

◊ Vontre · 09/08/09, 5:24 PM

Magegraf has been updated to the 3.2.2 arcane buffs. I talked about this in the arcane thread but forgot to update here.

minx69 · 09/27/09, 10:26 AM

There is currently no option for the T9 set bonus's, would it be possible to add them so we can get a more accurate output pls?

baloney72 · 10/04/09, 6:29 PM

The cast sequence is broken for me.
http://www.magegraf.com/index.php?ha...4250f8abaa867d

Kevinally · 10/11/09, 7:53 AM

Originally Posted by baloney72

The cast sequence is broken for me.
http://www.magegraf.com/index.php?ha...4250f8abaa867d

same issue here as well
http://www.magegraf.com/index.php?ha...feee071aa62c7b
I appreciate what you do for the mage community

◊ Vontre · 10/13/09, 6:57 PM

Ah, I need to redo the cast sequence thing, it's no longer applicable with the new speedy calculations. =x

Edit: holy shit frost buffs.

I will model these soon as I can. Dude.

Wakeman · 10/14/09, 9:19 AM

My friend's mage who is wearing mainly ilvl 200-213 epics gives some (apparently) strange result: http://www.magegraf.com/index.php?ha...a6559683e964fd

The weights for Hit for Arcane and Fireball are -1 and 4 respectively. For Fireball spec, Int is 18 while Spirit is 32. Is that normal? Or is the site not suitable for poorly geared mages to use? =/

◊ Vontre · 10/14/09, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Wakeman

My friend's mage who is wearing mainly ilvl 200-213 epics gives some (apparently) strange result: http://www.magegraf.com/index.php?ha...a6559683e964fd

The weights for Hit for Arcane and Fireball are -1 and 4 respectively. For Fireball spec, Int is 18 while Spirit is 32. Is that normal? Or is the site not suitable for poorly geared mages to use? =/

Yes this is normal. Spirit is bad and int is much worse.

Your friend is hit capped, so the value of hit should read as zero or close to it, I'll look into the -1 reading but it's probably just a small rounding error or something.

Zaldinar · 10/14/09, 6:33 PM

Vontre, with the 20% Scorch glyph I've got the TCoM showing a Scorch spam build as being close to FFB in overall output. Does Magegraf support the 20% glyph?

◊ Vontre · 10/14/09, 7:04 PM

Not yet.

I just uploaded the 3.3 frost changes to http://www.magegraf.com/3.3

What build you using for scorch?

Sakku · 10/15/09, 11:20 AM

I guess this one:
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?mage...ri8GLi6,,10571

2 questions:

1) will 2t10 affect scorch spam? (getting haste after HS procs (which will increase due to scorch spam)
2) is it worth to put fireblast in the rotation?

◊ Vontre · 10/15/09, 12:49 PM

Scorch build is up on the 3.3 version.

http://www.magegraf.com/3.3

Doesn't look like it'll be worth using much.

e: I haven't implemented T10 yet.

cbags · 10/15/09, 1:05 PM

Not to sound noobish here, but the link he provided does NOT have any glyphs, if magegraf does incorporate glyphs, dies the scorch build there have those included? If not, does that change the results?

◊ Vontre · 10/15/09, 1:11 PM

Yes I included glyphs.

orionnt · 10/15/09, 7:50 PM

Im getting some weird numbers for my character on the 3.2 version of magegraf. Even though I am hit capped, it still evals Hit as worth more than everything else for all specs.

http://magegraf.com/index.php?hash=9...e451cab4973cf5

I have 315 hit, witch is over the hit cap for arcane, but instead of getting a 0 for hit, I get 168. Even if I pu in 800, I still get 2. The other values seam relatively correct though.

Kevinally · 10/16/09, 1:26 AM

Originally Posted by orionnt

Im getting some weird numbers for my character on the 3.2 version of magegraf. Even though I am hit capped, it still evals Hit as worth more than everything else for all specs.

http://magegraf.com/index.php?hash=9...e451cab4973cf5

I have 315 hit, witch is over the hit cap for arcane, but instead of getting a 0 for hit, I get 168. Even if I pu in 800, I still get 2. The other values seam relatively correct though.

It looks like Magegraf is accounting for 3%, rather than 6% hit from arcane talents. If you select Misery under buffs, you still get a value of 2 for hit. Just some more info for you to munch on, Vontre.

Mentalfloss · 10/16/09, 12:18 PM

It also appears dps is the same for all specs regardless of whether bloodlust is checked or unchecked.

◊ Vontre · 10/16/09, 1:06 PM

Good catches. I fixed arcane focus, bloodlust, and also arcane power.

I also added encounter options for multiple targets. 2-target and 3-target mode. What these do is increase the frequency of living bomb casts (which deal out their full damage). I then added a 2 second interspersion to account for player delay (since it is not realistic to keep perfect timing on all LB dots on 3 targets, I think).

[e] Based on these new findings, I think frost is going to need further buffing on the order of an additional 5%.

minx69 · 10/22/09, 8:03 AM

I notice there is no option for Improved Flasks, could this be added pls?