Typex

I was just wondering what spec you used when you did those heroics.
Thanks in advance.

 

Sinless

Only when you are mana limited.

 

maxi

In my case, Rawr roughly says that dam=crit=haste. Thus +dam gems are the best ones, by the virtue of having the highest number on em.

 

Roywyn

It is very much gear dependant. Let's assume a Living Bomb spec with unlimited mana.

Full Sunwell Gear:
+12 dmg = 17.74 DPS, +10 crit = 17.07 DPS, +10 haste = + 15.74 DPS

Your gear level (Zhar'doom + BT/HS gear):
+12 dmg = 16.41 DPS, +10 crit = 15.24 DPS, +10 haste = + 15.78 DPS

It's because Sunwell items are mostly dmg/crit sidegrades with huge amounts of +haste, which increases the value of dmg/crit but leaves the value of haste unaffected.

The Blue Bar and you - the complete Fire Mage 2.4 mana compendium: http://elitistjerks.com/658230-post3191.html

DPS spec and class comparison in Naxxramas gear: http://code.google.com/p/simulationc...i/SampleOutput

And [Timbal's Focusing Crystal] doesn't proc on AM.
Neither does [The Egg of Mortal Essence] since 3.1.

 

maxi

Curiously enough...
means

Full Sunwell Gear:
+1 dmg = 1.478(3)DPS, +1 crit = 1.707 DPS, +10 haste = + 1.574 DPS
Your gear level (Zhar'doom + BT/HS gear):
+12 dmg = 1.3675 DPS, +10 crit = 1.524 DPS, +10 haste = + 1.578 DPS

Thus, when evaluating non-gem gear, damage ratings are actually more valuable point-for-point than damage.

 

Exellia

For those doing Brut and having the 0/50/11 spec...
How are your findings on Brut?
Im curious to see what armor is being used and what glyphs you use. I myself found i had to switch to mage armor because i just went oom too fast, not using the mage armor glyph but the mana gem one.

 

Nastre

Anyone else noticing Burning Soul has no impact whatsoever on lowering knockback casting time on fire spells?

Perhaps its an error associated with Quartz, but I'm still getting the 0.5 knockback per hit (limited to 2) even fully talented.

 

Bonemage

While the wording sounds like it should reduce the amount of push back I always thought burning soul functionedmore like a concentration aura where it reduced you chance of havingg pushback by 70%.

 

Chalii

So last night we did a full nights work on Kil'Jaeden and I went oom a lot. By the ending of phase 3 and beginning of phase 4 I had already burned almost all my gems, and an evocation. At one point I stopped using haste pots and switched over to mana pots. For the next attempt I'm probably going to be switching to mage armor.

Also just read that Blizz is going to reduce the mana cost of Fireball, Frostbolt, Arcane Blast, Arcane Explosion, Frostfire bolt and arcane missiles. They are also going to reduce the mana cost of living bomb.

 

Akston

The pushback mechanic has been revamped recently so everything that used to reduce your chance to get pushback is now supposed to reduce how big the pushback is when you get it. Without any protection you can only be pushed back twice for .5s each time or a total of 1s per cast and things like concentration aura and burning soul now reduce those numbers by the indicated percentages.. or at least they are supposed to..

Edit: When talking about mana issues please make note of whether or not your raid had someone with replenishment and what JoW uptime was like.

 

Nastre

I just checked again.

It's not working as you would suggest it should.

EDIT:

Is anyone else encountering this problem? Want to double-check that its not an observation fault on my part.

Or a fault with Quartz, which is admittedly out-of-date

 

Akston

Well that is almost definitely a bug and you should make a bug report on the blizzard forums and/or ticket it.

 

Salus

We ran Mount Hyjal last night and I have to say that Blastwave is almost completely useless. There were a few situations where I could knock a necromancer into the AoE, but generally Blastwave just makes the tanks angry. I think I will spec out of it in the future, as I really don't see it being useful in PvE. That said, I was having tons of fun with it in AV. Also, the frost mage and affliction lock did far more dps during AoE.

Also, on bosses, threat was still occasionally an issue, as was mana (although this may have been JoW related, still looking into that).

 

Daedalus

Just a note on WWS. They have posted that it'll be updated this week (Wow Web Stats • View topic - 3.0.2 Log files will be OK soon). In the mean time you can use the log converter for it that seems to work fairly well (Convert your combatlog from 3.0.x to 2.4.x).


I ran BT last night with Burning Soul (10/51/0) and it didn't seem to offer any push back resistance (checked Quartz and default UI, I'll see if I can find a screenshot). Combined with the complete lack of threat problems, the talent doesn't seem to have any use at this point.

 

Rifk

I'm not sure on Burning Soul at this point as well. Last night I specced out of World in Flames and into Burning Soul due to threat issues on Eredar Twins. We used the reverse strategy and just dps zerged. The 10% threat reduction made a huge difference. However, I'm not sure if that is due to our off tank's skill and / or rage generation on that fight.

As to the 70% reduced knockback effect, I haven't really noticed any impact. Anyhow, the verdict is still out on WiF vs BS imo.

 

Nastre

Spoke to a GM, Burning Soul issue is known, and is being worked upon.

 

Fauq

I am just curious how a 14/47 build measures up to a 11/51 or 51/11

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?mage...00000000000000

this is the 14/47 build I mean.

 

Misch

I've just about twisted my brain into a noodle trying to understand the relative value of Crit for Deep Fire, how it relates to Hot Streak Procs, and how the relative values between SD/Crit/Haste fluctuate at any given Crit rate.

At 50% crit, there's a 1-in-4 chance of casting 2x FB crits in a row.

Yet at 60% crit, there's a 1-in-3 chance of [Proccing HS].

That's a 33% increase in the HS-proc rate for just a 10% increase in Crit rate.

What are truly difficult to model (I would think) are the HS double-taps (3xFBCrits+2xHS-Pyros) and its bearing on the relative values of Crit/SD/Haste. Tell me Rawr takes all this into account and I will leave it at that, but I dunno if it does.

 

solbergb

Regarding feeling clunky - most specs now have very different rotatations. The way to not feel clunky is to play until it feels natural. Pick something that won't kill you to practice on. The change for me is not as significant as it is with my protadin, but I'm feeling it too.

I'm getting bigger numbers on a shot-by-shot basis but my DPS has been suffering from theoretical because stuff dies before the ignite and other DOTS finish. Not missing hotstreak and getting a smooth rotation is going to take practice but I can see a glimmer of how it'll be, as I accidently got it right a few times. I'm redoing all my keybindings which is also slowing things down, but makes some of these rotations possible.

Initial observations:

Playing without fireball: Pyroblast+living bomb is a decent opener solo. If you strafe the mob is just about into scorch range when the GCD wears off and the odds of getting a hot streak proc from the scorches+fire blast on the approach is high. I need to go into an instance to find some elites because I can't test the rest of my rotation on normal stuff, it keeps dying before it reaches me. I can move a lot more than before as the opener ends with a GCD, fire blast ends with GCD and hot streak procs end with GCD, plus of course blast wave and dragon breath would support even more motion.

Fighting groups: flamestrike-blizzard-on-approach- Dragon breath/flamestrike/blast wave/flamestrike will kill most things before you ever get around to an arcane explosion and well before they get to hit you. That sequence is doing > 12000 damage for me not counting ignite or dots, with only 1125 spellpower. It does drain the mana bar rather quickly. Flamestrikes are not what you remember from BC. They do about twice the damage of an arcane explosion without the DOT if you're fully fire talented and are well worth casting if they're instant, even with the fiddly targeting.

I'm actually liking firestarter a lot better than I thought I would. Fiery payback, by contrast...I'm not getting hurt much and the 5 sec cooldown on pyroblast is a pain, especially as there is no evidence of when Fiery payback is active beyond your health bar.

I'm not yet confident enough in my bar settings to do PVP yet. I'm going to shake them down zerging some folks through normal mode Ramparts/Blood furnace before I go into a battleground.

 

shadowritual

On a side note, Dragon's breath and Cone of cold does not share its cooldown anymore. I don,t know if it was mentioned elsewhere but I have not seen it in the patch notes and I don't think it was mentioned here either.

 

Bonemage

Has anyone noticed problems with the improved scorch glyph? In BT it seemed really erratic, it worked on BB and mother trash, went back to doing a single stack on Mother and Council trash and then worked properly for council. There was another mage with it in the run and his didn't seem to have any problems.

Anyone know if there is an alert mod out there yet to notify of hot streak procs? I know you can use floating combat text, but with 2 rets, a sp, several shaman etc the aura stuff is a little much to watch through, and trying to focus on when the buff comes up makes it a little hard to focus on the center of the screen where the action is.

 

Frostx

I use Parrot (a type of scrolling combat text addon) and add alerts (with sound) for Missile Barrage, Hot Streak, Fingers of Frost, and Fireball!.. works pretty well

 

Chalii

I'm just using regular SCT. It seems to work real well. I find that when hot streal procs the message scrolls through frame 3. I don't know how other people have theirs set up but I have frame 3 set so that it scrolls through the middle of my screen at the top. So I always see when hot streak procs. Try it out, i'm sure it will help.

 

Duodecimal

I may be mistaken, but I believe there are config options in SCT to filter or de-emphasize periodic effects. There's also three different message frames, and if I'm remembering correctly you can assign what kind of messages go to which frame.

 

cbags

I think Classtimers might also work to pick it up, even going so far as to show you how long you have left on the buff. I think you just need to go in and tell it to look for Hot Streak. Just like Parrot, or SCT, the only difference is the nice little bar that counts down.