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Old 11/06/09, 9:23 AM   #2476
Pasture
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Originally Posted by Shaitans View Post
I presume that this statement could only be true if the other range DPS is on the same target as well because if mages are the only range on the dark side, I would assume that the lack of range debuffs (CoE from locks, misery from SPs, etc.) would negate the potential benefit you might see from absorbing white balls with fire ward/5 more seconds on empowered darkness.
It's easily solved by making sure you have a Boomkin with the mages.
 
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Old 11/06/09, 12:21 PM   #2477
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PVP Spec for Heroic Faction Champs?

Last night, my guild had our first attempt on Heroic Faction Champions in 25 man, but we were having various different issues. One question that I have been scouring the web for is: Should a frost or arcane PVP spec help for this particular fight? Myself and some of the other mages were thinking frost PVP for the improved snares, but arcane PVP for the reduced resistance to Counterspell and Polymorph.

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Old 11/06/09, 12:29 PM   #2478
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A PvP spec is really not necessary, I've always done it as PvE Arcane. However each raid is different so if you happen to have a PvP spec as your secondary, then by all means try it and see how it works for you. There is no "right" answer as such, whatever you find works the best for you and the raid.

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Old 11/06/09, 5:50 PM   #2479
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Here is a really in-depth discussion regarding the threat of Faction Champs.

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Faction Champions AI Behavior Analysis

The discussion, in terms of Mages, would appear to support a conclusion that Ice Armor and/or an Ice Armor glyph would be about the best you can do in terms of improving survivability while using a normal PvE spec. Obviously, a PvP spec would increase the survivability even more; however, you pretty much need two PvE specs (arcane and FFB) to clear ToGC anyways, so I doubt it's worth the respec for that one fight because you will eventually need two PvE specs in one run to clear it.
 
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Old Yesterday, 10:08 PM   #2480
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Thank you very much for your feedback!
 
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