◊ manly

Has anyone seen a mod that tracks living bomb, but only your own ? I mean I'm an EBB (ElkBuffBars) abuser, but the problem with EBB is that it will show you everyone' living bomb time remaining, which really isn't interesting in the slightest.

Log on with different model:
1- Create a character of the desired model. Log on/off.
2- At character selection screen, select your actual character; mouseover the new, desired model character, and hold down left click; hit enter and release left click at the same time.
bug Arcane Potency only applies to the first Arcane Missile bolt.

 

DeimosXI

Quartz cast bar tracks the timer for only your living bomb (is also useful for tracking your imp scorch debuff as well). It is still buggy at times and may show "Living bomb 0.0s" in which case I have simply been using /console reloadui to fix. Not sure what is causing it to bug out yet but hopefully the next release will have a fix implemented.

 

Papajan

ClassTimer only tracks your own debuffs (at least the version I have), which is great for LB and many others but painfully misses the mark for Scorch/WC.

 

Roywyn

I know exactly whom to believe!
Because [Abyss Crystal]s have to come from somewhere!

Spirit is good for healers. Mp5 is okay, but worse than spirit.
It makes no sense to be put on cloth/leather/off-hands, but there are not enough complaints.

The Blue Bar and you - the complete Fire Mage 2.4 mana compendium: http://elitistjerks.com/658230-post3191.html

DPS spec and class comparison in Naxxramas gear: http://code.google.com/p/simulationc...i/SampleOutput

And [Timbal's Focusing Crystal] doesn't proc on AM.
Neither does [The Egg of Mortal Essence] since 3.1.

 

Airea

Scorchio! 2 - Scorchio! 2 - World of Warcraft - WowAce.com

The latest version keeps track of your own Living Bomb and it also keeps track of Winter's Chill. Semi-transparent bars are for any debuffs that are not your current target.

 

◊ manly

Thanks again, scorchio2 seems to be exactly what I was looking for. Although its of dubious purpose since 'scorch timer' is kind of built-in now.

I'll try it tonight. I just hope the site isn't doing what it says it does, since I do not want to know other mages living bomb timer. And it seems to imply it does.

Log on with different model:
1- Create a character of the desired model. Log on/off.
2- At character selection screen, select your actual character; mouseover the new, desired model character, and hold down left click; hit enter and release left click at the same time.
bug Arcane Potency only applies to the first Arcane Missile bolt.

 

f1reburn

-When aoeing with Blizzard, is it worth interrupting the cast for a Fireball when Brain Freeze procs? If not, is it worth weaving the Fireball in between Blizzards instead?

-How do you guys always keep your Elemental neatly on passive? It always seems to spawn in defensive stance. I never had a problem with defensive stance until the recent pet AI change, since then my pet keeps attacking the target I'm sheeping.

Oddly enough, manually changing the pet's stance from defensive to passive will make the pet interrupt his cast and move to me, similar to the 'follow' command. I used to play a hunter and I could've sworn it didn't used to do this.

I'm using this summon/freeze one button macro, but unfortunately the pet does't go passive until I aim the freeze
'reticule':
/cast [nopet] Summon Water elemental
/petpassive
/stopmacro [nopet]
/cast Freeze

 

aikiwoce

If you are having problems with your WE attacking your sheep, you should have your sheep macro set it on passive. Personally I have my WE Freeze bound to the right mouse button, along with Blink. Here's my macro:

#showtooltip
/cancelaura [nomod] Ice Block
/cast [pet,mod:shift]Freeze; [mod:ctrl] Blizzard; Blink

This allows both of my most used targeted aoe spells to share the same button, and still be moderately useful otherwise. To keep my WE on task, I use this macro for my main nuke:

#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift] Fireball; Frostbolt
/petattack [target=pettarget, noexists] [pettarget=focus]

The only problem is that you can't spam the button when you're killing your focus target. Other than that, it works for me.

 

yallazon

You might try NeedToKnow, and/or TellMeWhen. They are pretty good...

Also does anyone know if the sunfire enchant works with frostfire bolt?

 

Meghane

I have some really simple questions about the fire aoe talents.

First, does blast wave knock target back when they are frozen?

When living bombs goes off do the targets fly up in the air and out of flamestirke's dot area, or does just being in the air above the dot area mean they wont take damage? I've seen some videos of living bomb, but they either weren't very good or living bomb didnt look to be working right. sometimes it didn't look like anything went very high in the air if at all, sometimes just one target looked like it went pretty high with others around it staying down...it was kinda hard to tell, but can anyone tell definitively?

Also, if you cast two flamestikes of the same level, does the second's replace the first's dot, or is it only if they are overlapping, and only where they are overlapping if its just a little? And two flamestrikes of different levels place basically right on top of each other will still both tic their dots, right?

And blast wave's 'daze' effect basically just works like a slow effect right? but dragon's breath is more like a root, true?

Sorry if these questions seem really stupid, but i'm thinking of trying fire aoeing for fun but i've almost never been a fire mage. And i'd like to know a few things before i respec, if i do... so thanks in advance.

 

DeimosXI

Yes, FFB does fire as it's primary damage and as such sunfire works, if the target is more vunrable to frost though it deals frost damage.

I would recommend getting the new +50 spellpower weapon chant to cover yourself for both situations.

Hi Meghane,

I'll answer the questions I know.

Living bomb does not have a knock back effect to throw targets up in the air etc.

Dragons breath is more like a stun than a root effect. When an enemy is rooted, they can still cast at you from range or melee also if in range, dragons breath is a full stun incapacitating the targets.

For your respec, I wouldn't recommend blast wave for raiding (has some use in solo pve) as in raids, knocking back a tight pack of mobs is the last thing you'd want to do, so blast wave has been rendered almost useless.

 

Meghane

Hi Meghane,

I'll answer the questions I know.

Living bomb does not have a knock back effect to throw targets up in the air etc.

Dragons breath is more like a stun than a root effect. When an enemy is rooted, they can still cast at you from range or melee also if in range, dragons breath is a full stun incapacitating the targets.

For your respec, I wouldn't recommend blast wave for raiding (has some use in solo pve) as in raids, knocking back a tight pack of mobs is the last thing you'd want to do, so blast wave has been rendered almost useless.[/quote]

I meant it for doing aoe grinding to level up, i'm going to aoe grind to level a good deal, just whether it will be fire or frost. And so at the moment the tooltip on the official wow talent calculators is just completely misleading about its 'knocking all targets up in the air'?

 

DeimosXI

I've been using LB quite a lot and I have never seen it throw enemies into the air. I wasn't even aware that the tool tip on the official calculators stated that it had a "knock up"? effect. The knock up may be so minuscule that I haven't noticed it, but even if it does, in relation to your original question, the observed "lift off" won't move mobs out of your flamestrike DOT as it isn't an outwards knockback explosion originating from the living bomb target.

 

Meghane

well i hope it doesn't have a knock back effect, and doesn't get fixed to have one. A dot that has a knock back effect is just too unpredictable in some situations to be useful and completely annonying in almost all others, especially if its only targets other than the one you initially cast it on. The effect would probably just make it cost more mana or do less damage or both as well.

Has anyone tried aoe grinding with the new fire talents? I know frost for tried and true, and i'll probably end up going back to frost for the long hual, but will likely at least try fire.

how would this work for a pull (this is pretty simplified and ideal so its short):
round up all the mobs and iceblock unless unescessary
then either blink and cast living bomb or just cast it (hopefully this going off during the pull doesnt screw things up)
cone of cold
frost nova
full rank flamestrike (casted)
blastwave (hopefully they dont get knocked back if theyre frozen and hopefully they still are while using the nova glyph)
next rank of flamestrike (instant)
coc again
dragon's breath
full rank fs again (instant)
then just ae until dead, thought i think this is almost overkill before this point, so long as you can keep them grouped together well, even with just ok gear.
and hopefully between frost nova, coc's and blastwave's slow, blazing speed, dragon's breath and impacts from all that and molten armor you can keep them away from you real well while still just basically strafing around them in a circle a little larger than flamestirke's area.

the fun part about this would be killing them so fast with just instant aoe cast after another i think. One other question though, is it true that you can just put one point in firestarter talent and still get 50% chance per target that bw or db hits to proc the instant fs? I'd thought it would just depend on casting the spell, but i've heard that may not be the case.

 

DeimosXI

I have decent results with fire AOE in solo PVP.

Usually open with a pyroblast on a single target, tag remaining mobs with fire blast and scorch if the pyro alone doesn't pull enough for decent AOE.

Once aggro'd either iceblock when off cooldown to draw them together or cone of cold and kite to pack them nice and tight.

With the changes to frost nova, I am usually getting off 2 x flamestrike before it breaks also which leaves me with the following rotation once the mobs are in a group.

Living Bomb
Frost Nova
FS x 2
Dragons Breath (3 sec stun)
FS x 1
Living Bomb ticks out.
Acrane explosion remaining mob health.

The combination of frost nova snare and dragons breath stun usually means I don't take much damage. For mobs of the same level, between 5-6 enemies can be easily dispatched without dropping below half health with the proper micro.

 

Duravi

Wait your living bomb is ticking out? Thats 12s and the mobs are still up? Its not like fire aoe is bad, but if your really looking for powerful aoe I dont see how anything competes with blizzard, shatter, and FoF, (IV if theres alot of ranged/caster mobs) its like the lawnmower of AoEs. With some haste gear/buffs (throw in skull or something similar as well) blizzard just destroys gigantic waves of mobs, 5-6 is much smaller than blizzard is capable of handling. The best part is for most non-elites its just 1 blizzard cast to kill. LB is laughable in comparison. For raiding most builds wont have the talents to use blizzard to this potential, but if your going to go farm just shell out for the respec, I'd say any amount of farming over 30 mins and your easily making back that money in time saved. Works great for heroics as well.

 

Roywyn

Blizzards just wrecks AoEable packs, you don't even have to try.
Mobs are slowed down to 15% movement speed, are frozen most of the time and your crit rate is through the roof.
There is simply nothing that comes close to it for AoEing.

If you actually want to try AoEing something, have a look at World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> 20,000 Experience A Minute

The Blue Bar and you - the complete Fire Mage 2.4 mana compendium: http://elitistjerks.com/658230-post3191.html

DPS spec and class comparison in Naxxramas gear: http://code.google.com/p/simulationc...i/SampleOutput

And [Timbal's Focusing Crystal] doesn't proc on AM.
Neither does [The Egg of Mortal Essence] since 3.1.

 

Empyrea

What you can do to make this work is create a new group of buff tracking. From here, go to Filter --> Tracking --> check off DEBUFF. Back to Filter --> Tracking --> check off whitelist. Back to Filter --> White List --> DEBUFFS --> check off Living Bomb. This should now work to track only your living bomb and you can move it anywhere you want on your screen! I did the same with proc'd buff gains like 'The time is now!', Hotstreak etc in another group, except with BUFFS checked instead of DEBUFFS and the proc names instead of LB.

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Kerbi

Ok I have a question about your standard 0/53/18 FFB Build.

Since I am totaly in love with the new blizzard. I want to amplify it quite a bit.
If I was to do a build like this Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Would moving 1 point out of Ice Floes into Frostbite and 3 out of Frost Channeling then 1 into Imp Blizz. and 2 into Shatter be hurting my FFB much? I know that 10% mana off my FFB is not really much anyawys and while soloing that 34% shatter crit would really help at times. I just want my blizzard to be even better during aoe situations and such.

 

• Seonid

Or just use a 0/52/19 like Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft maybe ?

 

Kerbi

I could but a 6% crit chance off of Pyro and Blizz for 10% mana reduce and a little less shatter crit not totaly sure it would be worth it.

 

Strasner

What would be the new hit cap for lvl 83 mobs in heroics and raids?

How important is haste as a stat now? would it be worth stacking more haste than crit for example as there is loads of haste gear around these days.

 

• Seonid

@Strasner (/wave) Hit ratings detailed in http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t30655-w...sion_part_two/. Short version, assuming 3% talents and 3% debuff from Misery/Imp FF it's 289 hit rating to cap.

That 6% is still quite situational, you will only Pyro on HS proc and Blizzard will only be trash or perhaps an AoE boss phase - personal opinion really, but those suituations are not common enough for me to consider point investment.

 

Duravi

You kind of answered your own question here, shatter is extremely useful well soloing/farming, but of no use on the single target boss fights these FFB specs are really optimized for. In fact other than for raiding or perhaps with a slight tweak for single target mob killing FFB specs are not going to be optimal for you.

 

Etrius

Does [Sundial of the Exiled] share its internal cooldown with [Forge Ember]?