I've literally tunred off everything except improved scorch stacks with Scorchio 2. It is far too inconsistent with everything else to be worthwhile until it is fixed. It's a shame, because it seems that when it is working as intended, it will actually be close to a "must-have" for fire mages.

I am using classtimers. Does single target very well, I only wish that I could specify an option that prevented the bars from switching places depending on time left on debuff.

Try using "sort by Maximum time" or "sort alphabetically" (I'm not sure of the exact option name), this works well for me.

The problem that I'm finding right now is that the "hot streak" default sound seems to have been changed and is much harder to hear.

With all the problems with Scorchio2, I'd recommend you guys try Burnout. I've been using it since early WotLK and I've never had a problem with it. Tracks scorch time left from any mage, living bomb time, and hot streak procs very well and easily noticeable. It's a great all in one mod. Burnout - Addons - Curse

Hey gang, just wondering if anyone know how I can setup rawr to optimize my frost mage for pvp, mainly arena? The only thing I tried was optimizing for survability but for the options, Im not sure what to fill in. I know rawr is for pve, but I heard its possible to use for pvp too. ANy suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

My understanding is that the fix to scorchio is the same as many other addons needed for 3.1, which is some flag ("isMine") has been removed, so the addon needs to use another method to determine to whom a debuff belongs. I believe DotTimer and other addons that track this sort of thing have had similar issues. Perhaps someone who knows more about LUA could comment.

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Shadow Mastery and my own Improved Scorch are both up on the mob here

Alright, I'll make a guess then. First, what I wanted to prove was that scorchio is beyond bugged and the proof is that it shows shadow mastery as stacking to 5 stacks, which isn't possible in the first place. Second, I am fairly sure that the buffs do not stack. Its the same as the old double COE bug. My guess is that you can't apply a buff if a similarly powerful buff is up of the same category. For instance, if shadow mastery is up, you can't stack scorch. If 5 stack scorch is up, you can't apply shadow mastery. But if you have less than 5 stack of scorchdebuff and you try to apply shadow mastery, it lets you apply it and use whichever debuff stack provides the most crit.

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edit, come to think of it, someone should try the same scenario with scorch glyph and someone stacking winter's chill. It should behave the same. If it doesn't something probably is going on.

Pre-3.1 it would only allow the stronger debuff to stay on. A glyphed improved scorch would knock off one and two stacks of winter's chill

I've done a search and been unable to find the information...

Has anyone tested proc rates and cooldowns for the tier 8 set bonuses?

The 2 piece seems to have the standard 45 second internal cooldown. Wowhead shows the procrate for Praxis at 25% Praxis - Spell - World of Warcraft . I didn't notice any double procs on the 4 piece and actual procs seemed rare.

How does one calculate the "dps" from 4pc T7, I suppose we also have to take into consideration of your crit rate (since critting more = bonus comes into play more). Let's suppose I am running a standard 20/51/0 build, possibly check my armory for other stats if we need in the example.

I am trying to calculate the amount of DPS that I gain from using 4pc T7 versus breaking 4pc T7, and using 2pc T7 and 2pc T8 and an alternative BiS item (not a tier piece), but I am not sure if the 4pc T7 provides a greater DPS gain than the SP proc.

The T7 set bonuses are listed in Rawr. For Fireball, T7 4-piece isn't as bad as it is for FFB, but it's still not remarkable, and the gain you get in stats on T8 items (plus the proc of 2-peice T8) should far offset the set bonus of 4-piece T7. I would break it in a heartbeat.

Is there any reason why Mirror Image is now on the Global Cooldown? Has anyone heard about this at all?

Yes we've known about it for a while now. We don't know exactly why its on the GCD but I don't think its worth the GCD to cast it in PVE anymore for the dps boost, only for specific reasons like fading your threat for 30 seconds.

Hi, I'm a little confused.

Is it definately HS Pyroblast > Living Bomb as stated in Manly's FFB thread? Although I've been doing this for months, recently I've read the opposite elsewhere on the internet including Ensidnia's forums.

Well, the first 3 can all be argued is kind of the problem. The idea when I posted that is that generally you want to avoid losing potential HS procs, which are worth a lot of dps. Yet, at the time I posted that LB had no glyphs and LB could not generate HS procs either.

Personally I favor LB>pyro>(scorch)>ffb, although I suspect that once 4pct8 becomes the norm I can understand some mages hedging more towards pyro>lb>(scorch)>ffb. Also I haven't checked the new DPSC for all spells using my spreadsheet, even though it is updated and fully supports 3.1. If I had excel at work id update the post and give a more conclusive answer on the matter.

For the most part the old priorities kind of dont matter anymore now that we don't scorch anymore (read: no more possible touchy scenario of scorch refresh due + lb cast + hs pyro). The only scenario you get now is LB being castable while you have HS, which isn't much of a problem since its unlikely to cost you a lost HS proc. It may once you have 4pct8.


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in fact I updated my post


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Generally speaking, the spec works with priorities. Here is what I use, as I point out in the points of contention, I am not 100% sure on them, although remain confident this is accurate.

Living Bomb > Hot Streak pyroblast > (scorch refresh) > ffb

However, this is only the main outline. This is the optimal priority list assuming everything goes according to plan, which needless to say, isn't something you can really count on. Also, you want to prioritize HS-pyro over LB when you have a high probability of losing a HS-pyro proc. This will become particularly good to remember for 4pct8 wearers.

Question : Does anyone tried the arcane PvE spec in ulduar ? Is it a dead spec ? My problem is that I re-spec TTW but I am no more hit caped (-3% hit). I wondered if it wasn't possible to start Ulduar with 57/3/11 build to let me the time to cap my hit.

Thanks

If you intend on raiding ttw fire, I would suggest starting as frostfire for the mana efficiency, not to mention that it requires precisely 3% less hit than ttw fire. The focus magic swapping leaves it at about the same dps as ttw at the moment, as well. As for arcane, I haven't personally tried it, but the arcane thread showed some positive results that it was working well in ulduar.

Anyone know if the TTW spec change buff is being taken away in 3.1.1?

@ Lovetusks

I believe enthorn posted a ghostcrawler comment on one of the spec specific threads stating that it would be hotfixed soon, as to whether it will happen in 3.1.1 im not sure.

Yeah, I saw that which made me believe it may well vanish in 3.1.1. Just wondered if anyone knew anymore.