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Old 02/12/09, 7:06 PM   #1081
Kelfar
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Originally Posted by Jakthar View Post
Recently a guildie threw this link my way. SampleOutput - simulationcraft - Google Code

Is A Fireball build such as 18/53/0 actualy viable? I tried it out last night and our other 57/3/11 mage ended up beating me by a decent gap every fight.
Arcane is the superior spec right now, also if you look here you can clearly see that

SampleOutputCaster - simulationcraft - Google Code

Arcane, Fire, and FFB are all "viable" but viable is a lot different from the best.

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Old 02/12/09, 7:12 PM   #1082
Physicist
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Check the version number; those numbers don't include the Abarr nerf, and have AP on a 1 minute cooldown with 10% bonus.

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Old 02/12/09, 7:35 PM   #1083
Jakthar
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Originally Posted by Kelfar View Post
Arcane is the superior spec right now, also if you look here you can clearly see that

SampleOutputCaster - simulationcraft - Google Code

Arcane, Fire, and FFB are all "viable" but viable is a lot different from the best.
I know they are all viable. I'm trying to say that simulationcraft shows Fire and Arcane to be alot closer than what I can actualy produce in practice.

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Old 02/12/09, 9:05 PM   #1084
InFi
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SampleOutputCaster - simulationcraft - Google Code
One question regarding this website. Looking at the scaling comparison at the bottom of that site, FFB scales even better with SP than FB does. That's quite the opposite from what I've been reading in various different Forums.

Is this Site including the higher crit multiplicator for FFB and this ways expects a higher scaling and is this correct as it says on the site or is FB scaling better simply because of the longer cast time?

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Old 02/13/09, 9:40 AM   #1085
Averiel
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Has anybody else seen rogues topping the meters? Not necessarily topping meters, but topping mages in general without going HAT after their SnD/HfB/Mut changes?

I had a rough night in Naxx25 last night, not breaking 5k dps on patchwerk, unbelievable =( but I think that the kill was a bit faster than what I am used to, so my burn phase lasted very little =(

Wow Web Stats

Mages are usually top5 in our guild prior to this week, this week a geared Surv hunter joined and completely dominated us, as well as some of the rogues who were combat. Anybody else fallen to the middle or bottom of their guild meters?

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Old 02/13/09, 4:33 PM   #1086
Duravi
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Well here are my numbers for patchwerk yesterday for comparison.
Wow Web Stats
Your not like real undergeared or anything so I'm not sure why you are so low; as for hunters Bullszeye way out performed ours.

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Old 02/13/09, 8:47 PM   #1087
Ifarm
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Hello guys i have a quick question i dont understand how [Gown of the Spell-Weaver] is better rated then...
[Heigan's Putrid Vestments] the only thing i can think of is for the +hit i also gemmed my Heigan's putrid vestments with [Mysterious Twilight Opal] and [Reckless Monarch Topaz] i also have +8stats on the chest, i am thinking of throwing +10 because i honestly think heigan's is better..idk though maybe i am missing something..can someone please explain why gown of the spell-weaver would be better? i am hit capped...as a arc mage already ...so i dont really need all that extra +hit thank you for your time and concern.

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Old 02/13/09, 10:04 PM   #1088
dedmonwakeen
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Originally Posted by Jakthar View Post
Recently a guildie threw this link my way. SampleOutput - simulationcraft - Google Code

Is A Fireball build such as 18/53/0 actualy viable? I tried it out last night and our other 57/3/11 mage ended up beating me by a decent gap every fight.
What were the lengths of your fights?

The sample output I throw up there is from fights of a little under 5min. Given the fight length and the gear setup, the Arcane Mage profiles are right on the edge of OOM. Shorter fights (or fights with pauses for regen -and- CD popping) benefit Arcane considerably....


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Old 02/14/09, 12:17 AM   #1089
darkcorath
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Does anyone know if the mana regen gained from the Pyromaniac and Arcane Meditation talents stack?

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Old 02/14/09, 4:21 AM   #1090
Morthoul
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remove please

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Old 02/14/09, 5:55 AM   #1091
Arvold
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Does spell rezistance lower frost nova chance to brake in pvp?

How does spell penetration work for frost nova in pvp?

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Old 02/15/09, 1:56 AM   #1092
Jakthar
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Originally Posted by dedmonwakeen View Post
What were the lengths of your fights?

The sample output I throw up there is from fights of a little under 5min. Given the fight length and the gear setup, the Arcane Mage profiles are right on the edge of OOM. Shorter fights (or fights with pauses for regen -and- CD popping) benefit Arcane considerably....
That would probably explain it.
The fights were the last few in 25man nax.

Out of curiosity why are numbers always based around 5mins fights? The only fight I can recall that long would be something like Sath 3 drakes.

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Old 02/15/09, 12:07 PM   #1093
gerryq
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Originally Posted by Jakthar View Post
That would probably explain it.
The fights were the last few in 25man nax.

Out of curiosity why are numbers always based around 5mins fights? The only fight I can recall that long would be something like Sath 3 drakes.
Maybe because the numbers, specs, rotations etc. are only important when you are fighting a boss for whom you are not greatly overpowered?

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Old 02/15/09, 5:31 PM   #1094
Jakthar
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Blood Elf Mage
 
Altar of Storms
Originally Posted by gerryq View Post
Maybe because the numbers, specs, rotations etc. are only important when you are fighting a boss for whom you are not greatly overpowered?
Compared to what? Honestly there is nothing in the game atm I wouldn't consider "Greatly overpowered".

I do have another question:
What are people using as far as an Arcane Blast macro?
/cast [modifer:alt] Icy Veins
/cast [modifer:alt] Arcane Power
/cast [modifer:alt] Presence of Mind
/cast [modifer:alt] Mirror Image
/cast Arcane Blast
That's what I used to use but it seems the changes to Arcane Power and PoM broke it.
Is there any way to set all my CDs to a modifer on Arcane Blast without having to seperatly click Arcane Power and PoM?

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Old 02/15/09, 6:28 PM   #1095
epoh
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Originally Posted by Jakthar View Post
Compared to what? Honestly there is nothing in the game atm I wouldn't consider "Greatly overpowered".

I do have another question:
What are people using as far as an Arcane Blast macro?

That's what I used to use but it seems the changes to Arcane Power and PoM broke it.
Is there any way to set all my CDs to a modifer on Arcane Blast without having to seperatly click Arcane Power and PoM?
Read the patch notes.

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