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Old 11/24/08, 11:26 AM   #121
Furymagi
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Human Mage
 
Zul'Jin
Alright, thanks, but he said it has to do with Frost Death Knights.... and I was like... uh what? bosses are still not freezable and chains of ice doesn't say they are considered frozen

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Old 11/24/08, 11:50 AM   #122
Tucker
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Malorne
I'm curious about spell rotation for Frostfire spec. Do you watch for crits and sub in fireball so the huge Frostfire dot can tick? or is it just Frostfire spam and pyro when Hotstreak hits? Also keeping LB up as much as possible.

In further response to Manly's question about LB tracking, I'm using PowerAuras which you can set for a graphical and/or sound alert to let you know if the debuff is not on the target. I use a graphical alert for Hotstreak as well since I don't always hear the sound or don't know if it's me when there are other mages near me.

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Old 11/24/08, 12:12 PM   #123
manly
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Mal'Ganis
Well, I forgot to mention a detail. I tried EBB3. I honestly immediately removed it and went back to EBB2. First, the config window has far less options, options I was using. Second, its missing individually set-up 'grow upwards/downwards'. Third, and this is somewhat major, it didnt have the option to to have the bars 'follow one another'. What I mean by that is, in EBB2 you could set up a bar over another, and the top bar would always be atop the other one and stay linked, not end up having one under the other (which is obviously unreadable).

The only problem with EBB2 is that it doesnt supports self-only debuffs and the grow downwards option works but isnt properly saved (need to reset it every logon :/ ). I'm not too sure what to do. I guess I'll try again EBB3 and hope they updated it to at least support relative bar positioning.

Originally Posted by Tucker View Post
I'm curious about spell rotation for Frostfire spec. Do you watch for crits and sub in fireball so the huge Frostfire dot can tick? or is it just Frostfire spam and pyro when Hotstreak hits? Also keeping LB up as much as possible.
I would recommend you something far more simplier.

Priorities: hot streak pyro > living bomb >= scorch refresh > ffb

This is only the rough outline. Many many small details can be worked upon. For example, I try and line up 2pct7 with pyro, since it is rather easy (wait for hot streak before using a mana gem). Also, if you can refresh living bomb right after pyro, you avoid ignite munching, so sometimes you need to make a judgement call on the spot. Then all of this can get tricky if it lines up with scorch about to expire. Then theres also minor details, like avoiding living bomb exploding during combustion (eats a charge). You also want to finish as much as possible your +dmg timers/procs with living bomb (particularly with [Sundial of the Exiled]).

Originally Posted by Tucker View Post
In further response to Manly's question about LB tracking, I'm using PowerAuras which you can set for a graphical and/or sound alert to let you know if the debuff is not on the target. I use a graphical alert for Hotstreak as well since I don't always hear the sound or don't know if it's me when there are other mages near me.
I already use power auras. I do believe it is unfit for Living Bomb tracking. Problem is, I want to know at all times the time left on it, not whether or not it is up. It isn't an immediate thing to cast living bomb whenever it isn't up. I try and minimize ignite munching with it, in the same way I used to use drums.

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Old 11/24/08, 12:45 PM   #124
 Seonid
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Originally Posted by Skorp View Post
I tried Scorchio2, but I was unable to bring up the configuration or any options frame.
Options->Interface->Addons.

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Old 11/24/08, 12:45 PM   #125
Kradin
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Human Mage
 
Lightning's Blade
Would it be necessary to have a "Useful Mage Addons" thread? I know there is already a thread on general use interface.

Does casting Living Bomb when its up actually hurt your DPS not your damage done? Sense your using that global cd for LB instead of casting another FFB.

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Old 11/24/08, 1:03 PM   #126
PinkRoach
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Sargeras
Should I just get rid of tailoring or save it since I am already almost maxed out

or should I just grit my teeth and get freakin' JC'ing already?

But then wont those gems be available to purchase via Emblems later on? @_@

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Old 11/24/08, 1:05 PM   #127
manly
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Same as every other dot in wow. If you refresh living bomb, you lose partial ticks. If the dot ticks every 3 seconds, and you refresh at 5 seconds, then you have 2 seconds of wasted dot dps, since your tick will happen at 3 and 8 seconds if you do that.

Its particularly more notable when you have the explosion of living bomb happen at the end of it. You not only lose partial ticks, you also lose the explosion by refreshing too early. And thats not even mentioning mana.
Originally Posted by PinkRoach View Post
Should I just get rid of tailoring or save it since I am already almost maxed out

or should I just grit my teeth and get freakin' JC'ing already?

But then wont those gems be available to purchase via Emblems later on? @_@
If you go JC, the profession gain is limited by how good the jc-only gems are versus the non jc-only gems. Since it is unlikely they make new jc-only gems, but likely they add new gems later on, I expect the profession to scale down with progression.

Blacksmithing is the reverse. The better the gems are, the better the profession boost is.

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Old 11/24/08, 1:06 PM   #128
PinkRoach
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Sargeras
Originally Posted by Kradin View Post
Would it be necessary to have a "Useful Mage Addons" thread? I know there is already a thread on general use interface.

Does casting Living Bomb when its up actually hurt your DPS not your damage done? Sense your using that global cd for LB instead of casting another FFB.

No, it should be part of your rotation and used every 12 seconds. Just make sure its up at all times. I noticed my DPS and damage both went up when I started using it in my rotations.

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Old 11/24/08, 1:45 PM   #129
Skorp
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Blackrock
My question is, which out of all of these listed is very easy to configure.. I want to only be able to track LB and possibly scorches, as well as have a graphic when HS procs. I don't want all the other crap that comes with mods. lol

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Old 11/24/08, 1:49 PM   #130
manly
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Originally Posted by Skorp View Post
My question is, which out of all of these listed is very easy to configure.. I want to only be able to track LB and possibly scorches, as well as have a graphic when HS procs. I don't want all the other crap that comes with mods. lol
PowerAuras is the best for displaying when you get a hot streak proc. I don't think there is anything else I'd want for it, or would want anything else. Its pretty much perfect for the task.

<Eej> YOU"RE GONNA PULL
<Eej> IF YOU SQUEEZE OFF ANOTHER ARCANE BLAST
<Spectear> You've obviously never played with Manly.
<Spectear> That's hardly a reason to stop DPS.
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Old 11/24/08, 2:06 PM   #131
Delrain
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Moonrunner
Originally Posted by Lurker View Post
Quick inquiry: Does 2pcT7 stack with the glyph / SCB? (You gain 40% more mana when you use a mana gem. In addition, using a mana gem grants you 225 spell power for 15 sec.)
It stacks with the +mana, however, the spell power does not. You still only get the +225 and both are called Mana Surge.

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Old 11/24/08, 2:25 PM   #132
Minifridge
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Kalecgos
Originally Posted by manly View Post
PowerAuras is the best for displaying when you get a hot streak proc. I don't think there is anything else I'd want for it, or would want anything else. Its pretty much perfect for the task.
You can configure Parrot do do the following (expletives optional):



Huge pink text that shakes, it's pretty impossible to miss.

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Old 11/24/08, 3:02 PM   #133
Tyrian
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Frostmourne
Would it be necessary to have a "Useful Mage Addons" thread?
Yes, with a consolidated first-post summary to make it easy at-a-glance to review and find the mods your after.

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Old 11/24/08, 3:16 PM   #134
Misch
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Human Mage
 
Eredar
Does Glyph of Fireball affect Frostfire bolt? (Exodar's scribes are agonizingly slow to level...)

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Old 11/24/08, 3:36 PM   #135
Enthorn
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No Misch, [Glyph of Fireball] does not affect Frostfire Bolt, as the tooltip clearly states Fireball. [Glyph of Frostfire] is what you are after.

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