Blatty

I have a question concerning Firestorm Band - Item - World of Warcraft
and Polished Dragonslayer's Signet - Item - World of Warcraft

How is it possible that, for an arcane mage, Rawr rates Polished Dragonslayer's Signet - Item - World of Warcraft as the better one, dps wise?

I mean isn't 19 SP supposedly better than 1%ish crit for arcane?

 

Wizeowel

You are talking about 51 crit rating versus 19 spellpower. Even if crit rating were only half as effective as spellpower (which it's not, it's about 60%) it would still be better. However, you seem to have ignored the 56 hit rating on the Firestorm Band. Rawr does not ignore hit rating, but values it dependent on the gear you have selected for your character. So when you are undercapped, Rawr correctly rates Firestorm Band about 155 dps higher than Dragonslayer's Signet. When you are hit capped, Rawr correctly rates the latter higher. Try turning off misery in the buffs section to see the difference, or remove another hit gear piece from your character.

 

hkkilian

I'm seeing something that I don't understand.
With my current setup, Rawr says my DPS is 6020.208. I have enough emblems to buy the Talisman of Resurgence trinket, and when I tell Rawr that that's available and hit optimize (with maximum thoroughness) it tells me to re-gem some stuff and then I'll get 6123.9 DPS.
But if I simply replace my Sundial trinket with Talisman of Resurgence, it says I get 6135.76.

I don't understand why the optimizer doesn't find the 6135.76 solution.

I've uploaded my xml file here: RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting
Since it can only be downloaded 10 times, I'd appreciate it if you only download it if you *really* want to see it

This is with Rawr 2.2.24, btw...

 

Kavan

Short story, it does find that solution. It actually finds a better solution. If you had accepted the optimization result you'd see that the actual dps of the solution it finds is 6136.44 dps.

Now the long story. Why does it say it's only 6123.9 dps when it actually is 6136.44 dps? The reason comes from Incremental Optimizations. What Incremental Optimization does is it assumes that when you're making small changes to gear your optimal cycles won't change. By making this assumption it's able to compute gear comparisons a lot faster. It only computes the true optimum for the character that is loaded and makes comparisons/optimizations based on that. It does have a problem though that when you're on a boundary where your optimal cycles change it'll underreport the value. In your particular case you're right on a boundary between 2 arcane cycles since you're low on mana regen.

What can you do about it? If you want to have 100% accurate comparisons/optimizations then you should disable Incremental Optimization. The other more practical solution is to take into account that even though it is underreporting values it's doing so uniformly for all comparisons, so in almost all cases it'll still correctly rate which gear combination is best. And once you load in the new gear it'll give you the correct dps and further comparisons/optimizations will go based on this starting point.