Rawr.Mage - Page 63

Cython · 12/09/09, 12:27 PM

The latest Rawr is still showing Greater spellpower enchant (the two handed weapon one +81 SP) as > then Black Magic on my heroic Illumination. Is this correct? This is based on my toons haste, which is currently @ 848, 3326 spell power etc. with full 25 man raid buffs. Black magic is coming out 17 DPS less then SP.

dyelynn · 12/09/09, 2:25 PM

Originally Posted by Cython

The latest Rawr is still showing Greater spellpower enchant (the two handed weapon one +81 SP) as > then Black Magic on my heroic Illumination. Is this correct? This is based on my toons haste, which is currently @ 848, 3326 spell power etc. with full 25 man raid buffs. Black magic is coming out 17 DPS less then SP.

I did a quick search on this last night here, before looking at rawr. From what I read, Black Magic is only better than SP on 1h, not 2h.

Cython · 12/09/09, 4:18 PM

Originally Posted by dyelynn

I did a quick search on this last night here, before looking at rawr. From what I read, Black Magic is only better than SP on 1h, not 2h.

I didn't see that. Well that would explain it then, I suspected that might be it, but could not find the related info. Thanks!

germanator · 12/09/09, 4:25 PM

Originally Posted by Kavan

Magic Absorption is modeled, but it does not assume 5% resist. It calculates boss hit rate as follows:

float bossHitRate = Math.Min(maxHitRate, ((playerLevel <= calculationOptions.TargetLevel + 2) ? (0.96f - (playerLevel - calculationOptions.TargetLevel) * 0.01f) : (0.94f - (playerLevel - calculationOptions.TargetLevel - 2) * 0.11f)));

A typical boss (+3 levels) would therefore have a 1% resist rate. Binary spells also depend on resistances. You should see its effect as increase in MP5 in the Regeneration section on Stats tab.

I mean the boss spell hit rate on me (binary and nonbinary spells)

Nonbinary spells would have a higher chance to resist with raid buffs/resist gear, correct?

Kavan · 12/09/09, 6:02 PM

Originally Posted by germanator

I mean the boss spell hit rate on me (binary and nonbinary spells)

Nonbinary spells would have a higher chance to resist with raid buffs/resist gear, correct?

If you have some evidence that nonbinary boss spells resist more than 1% please post a link to relevant discussion. As far as I understand the resistances have no effect on the rate of full resists on nonbinary spells.

Regarding Black Magic enchant. The modeling quality of this enchant is questionable, specially when looking at things like 2T10 interaction. I would advise double checking the values with simulationcraft.

myztikrice · 12/09/09, 7:57 PM

Nevermelting Ice Crystsal trinket is missing its Use effect.

Hibbo · 12/10/09, 4:15 AM

When i check the Frost Spec i can`t find DF in the Spell Cycle.
Is this not integrated till now in the Spell Cycle of a Frost Spec?

Ilyawen · 12/10/09, 9:51 AM

It does deal quite insane damage. Haven't been frost myself, but one of our mages did report some very high crits with it last night. My guess would be that you want to use DF on every second FoF-charge where its CD is up. Not much of a choice there anyway.

Shaitans · 12/10/09, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by myztikrice

Nevermelting Ice Crystsal trinket is missing its Use effect.

Dislodged Foreign Object looks to have the same problem.

Edit: Dislodged Foreign Object still looks to not have the other equip proc with version 2.3.1

Kavan · 12/10/09, 4:52 PM

Originally Posted by Hibbo

When i check the Frost Spec i can`t find DF in the Spell Cycle.
Is this not integrated till now in the Spell Cycle of a Frost Spec?

Not sure if it's in 2.3.1, but it should be in next version.

myztikrice · 12/11/09, 2:37 AM

Most if not all of the 3.3 loot are missing their socket bonuses.

Astrylian · 12/11/09, 3:10 AM

That's correct, because we don't know the socket bonuses for most of the 3.3 loot, because it comes from the Armory, which doesn't show socket bonuses.

Xmasman · 12/11/09, 6:31 AM

I have problems when using Arcane to load my character in Rawr.
When i use a frostfire build there are no problems, but when i switch to arcance rawr freezes.

Even when i loaded my character from armory und used the standard rawr settings and choosed the 57-3-11 build it freezes.
Could anyone try this with version 2.3.1 -> Character: Avalandil , EU-Zuluhed

thx so far

Harmôny · 12/11/09, 7:46 AM

I see no changes in hit if i chose a draenei so could it be that heroic presence be missing?

Ilyawen · 12/11/09, 8:52 AM

You have to select heroic presence as one of the buffs under the buffs tab (is it the buffs tab even? Its the one where you select things like flasks, raidbuff etc.), so you can chose it to be active even if you're not a draenei yourself, but only grouped with one.