Rawr.Mage - Page 74

Kosinissa16 · 01/26/10, 11:26 AM

A more general question, why is rawr rating sp/spi with only a 5 sp bonus so high now with only 2 pc t9? Prior to this I remember a pure 23 sp gem beat it out slightly.

Tipsey · 01/26/10, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Kosinissa16

A more general question, why is rawr rating sp/spi with only a 5 sp bonus so high now with only 2 pc t9? Prior to this I remember a pure 23 sp gem beat it out slightly.

This is because it is 2 pc t9 that gives a 15% bonus to molten armor, thus making the purified dreadstone a better solution. Once you break your 2 pc t9, you will likely see different gemming options become optimal.

phrynia · 01/26/10, 1:15 PM

Originally Posted by Kosinissa16

A more general question, why is rawr rating sp/spi with only a 5 sp bonus so high now with only 2 pc t9? Prior to this I remember a pure 23 sp gem beat it out slightly.

If I'm looking at the right armory profile, I wonder if it's because your spellpower has gotten higher and crit/haste becomes more valuable as that happens. I know this happens to haste and intuitively it would make sense if crit becomes more valuable as well now that you have so much more spellpower than before. Instead of 30 spellpower being 1%, now 35 spellpower is about 1% so it's not as valuable as before.

MalaclypseTY · 01/26/10, 2:25 PM

Hey Kavan,

Wondering if there is an option (or it already exists somewhere) to save the sequence reconstruction to a file. As a Troll Arcane Mage with Engineering the sequence info is very interesting to view. I currently have a problem where it is so large a list for a 5 minute fight I only get to see from about 2:00 on when I hover over sequence on my 1900x1200 res screen.

Kosinissa16 · 01/26/10, 3:59 PM

Originally Posted by Tipsey

This is because it is 2 pc t9 that gives a 15% bonus to molten armor, thus making the purified dreadstone a better solution. Once you break your 2 pc t9, you will likely see different gemming options become optimal.

Yeah I know that >.> but my comment was prior to this in mainly t9 gear I noticed that purifieds were about .5 dps under a runed cardinal ruby, where as now im seeing them as almost 2-4 dps better
*EDIT* I should have clarified atm i am still using 2 piece t9 and 2 piece t10, and it was rated higher with 4 piece t9 so i think i answered my own question with the last statement

Originally Posted by phrynia

If I'm looking at the right armory profile, I wonder if it's because your spellpower has gotten higher and crit/haste becomes more valuable as that happens. I know this happens to haste and intuitively it would make sense if crit becomes more valuable as well now that you have so much more spellpower than before. Instead of 30 spellpower being 1%, now 35 spellpower is about 1% so it's not as valuable as before.

Thinking about it that actually sounds about right I guess with 4 piece t9 the value of crit i needed wasnt as high as it is now without said set bonus

Kavan · 01/26/10, 9:35 PM

Originally Posted by MalaclypseTY

Wondering if there is an option (or it already exists somewhere) to save the sequence reconstruction to a file.

You can use Tools->Copy to clipboard for that purpose.

Tebla · 01/27/10, 1:11 AM

Why is Dislodged Foreign Object so low in the trinket list? Here's my armory. I have Abyssal Rune and Talisman of Resurgence and I want to know which one is better. My gut is telling me Talisman, but I wanted to check RAWR first.

Also, are the exalted Ashen Verdict rings being added soon?

Juravieal · 01/27/10, 2:02 AM

Originally Posted by Tebla

Why is Dislodged Foreign Object so low in the trinket list? Here's my armory. I have Abyssal Rune and Talisman of Resurgence and I want to know which one is better. My gut is telling me Talisman, but I wanted to check RAWR first.

Also, are the exalted Ashen Verdict rings being added soon?

Right click Dislodged Foreign Object and refresh from armory. This will fix its placement. You can add the exalted rings yourself via Tools -> Edit Items, simply get the item id from wowhead, which is 50398 in the case of Endless Destruction, and use the Add button under Edit Items.

Zerstorung · 01/27/10, 1:41 PM

Had an error that randomly came up a few version ago in RAWR and has been weird ever since. It's not a big deal, but the icons in the talent pane are all zoomed in, as if the resolution is messed up. Been a little pet peeve, how do I fix it?

Astrylian · 01/27/10, 1:52 PM

Armory changed the format of their images, and we haven't gotten around to fixing it yet. Nothing you can do except ignore it until we fix it.

Tutsumi · 01/27/10, 9:23 PM

One thing that I have noticed is that when I "Load Possible Upgrades from Armory" and when I load it from WoWhead, some items seem to switch up on the rankings.

For example:
When loaded from WoWhead my top possible upgrade for my ring is Ring of Rapid Ascent (I filtered out Heroic ICC).
When loaded from Armory my top possible upgrade for my ring is now Valanar's Other Signet Ring.

Why is there such a difference?
The DPS ranking on the Armory Ranking is Valanar's ring coming at 1585 and Ring of Rapid Ascent coming at 417.
The DPS ranking on the WoWhead Ranking is Ring of Rapid Ascent coming in at 1579 and Valanar's coming at 388.

Please note I did not load from WoWhead using PTR mode.

On ANOTHER note, but one that still pertains to this, is that every time I load from either of these, the top items do change even if I had another item on top from before.

Example: Load from WoWhead = Ring of Rapid Ascent.
Load from Armory = Valanar's Other Signet Ring.
Load AGAIN from WoWhead = Ring of the Darkmender.

Any way to help fix this?

Astrylian · 01/27/10, 9:30 PM

Errr.... That doesn't sound right. I'm not sure what you're actually doing to get the results you describe. You should look at the stats listed on the items, and see what's changing. It's possible that Wowhead or Armory have bad data for some items.

Tutsumi · 01/27/10, 9:39 PM

Yeah, that's something that's been bugging me, lol.

I'm honestly just loading from both and watching the change. When I right click the Darkmender ring and update it by itself from WoWhead it (and the others) drop to its proper place though it's not saying Ring of Rapid Ascent anymore.

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Upon an Armory reload Ascent is now showing up at top with:
60 crit, 52 haste, 69 int, 97 sp, 69 stam
Upon a WoWhead reload it's now the same.

This is quite odd since it continuously happened upon each reload with me switching sources. I guess me doing it individually was the key to me fixing it?

Quite a weird bug on my end. :/

Hidden · 01/27/10, 9:45 PM

Originally Posted by Tutsumi

Yeah, that's something that's been bugging me, lol.

I'm honestly just loading from both and watching the change. When I right click the Darkmender ring and update it by itself from WoWhead it (and the others) drop to its proper place though it's not saying Ring of Rapid Ascent anymore.

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Upon an Armory reload Ascent is now showing up at top with:
60 crit, 52 haste, 69 int, 97 sp, 69 stam
Upon a WoWhead reload it's now the same.

This is quite odd since it continuously happened upon each reload with me switching sources. I guess me doing it individually was the key to me fixing it?

Quite a weird bug on my end. :/

Have you checked socket bonuses?
Wowhead still has no socket bonuses for some items and armory has no socket bonuses for all items as far as I know, so updating from either of them may add or remove the bonuses which may lead to differences in their values.

Edit: I could reproduce your bug, just reload your ring slot list and the list shows the proper rankings again.

Diabhalta · 01/28/10, 2:48 AM

I'm sure I'm doing something very stupid but I can't seem to get RAWR to list dps of potions under all buffs. Not a huge deal but was playing around with the idea of using wild magic during heroism and noticed all potions are listend as zero dps under buff comparisons.