Rawr.Mage - Page 90

Sinless · 08/04/10, 6:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mardi

in the character sheet it shows the additional crit percentage...how do you confirm your information?

It should be rather easy to test it out, all you have to do after equipping 2pT9, casting MA, and then equipping your current gear is to re-cast MA to see if there is a drop in your crit chance on the character sheet.

Am I mistaken here?

Mardi · 08/04/10, 6:40 PM

Originally Posted by Sinless

It should be rather easy to test it out, all you have to do after equipping 2pT9, casting MA, and then equipping your current gear is to re-cast MA to see if there is a drop in your crit chance on the character sheet.

Am I mistaken here?

you are right, but thats not how the 2pcT9 bug works. you do not recast MA when you are back in your current gear.

Sinless · 08/04/10, 6:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mardi

you are right, but thats not how the 2pcT9 bug works. you do not recast MA when you are back in your current gear.

I know, I was talking about testing it.

mightypirate · 08/05/10, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Soltarnal

As of July 27...give or take a day...the tier 9 2pc trick isnt working inside ICC or RS. But, standing outside of Dalaran North Bank, it does. I have not tried BG's or Arena.

Thanx for input, all.

Just tested it, it does still work in ICC and RSS

Vampmaster · 08/07/10, 9:51 AM

That was a very comprehensive update, but I wonder if all that stills aplies to rawr 3.0?

mathman1993 · 08/16/10, 9:48 PM

Sinless, that just tests the tooltip, my theory is that it is a tooltip error and you are not accually getting the extra crit rating. Granted I still use it because I might be wrong.
Truly testing it would require you to cast for a long amount of time with no interruptions or variables at a static target such as a training dummy once using the t9 bug and again without, then comparing the numbers (by a long amount of time I mean something like 100,000 casts of fireball).

vukae · 08/17/10, 4:19 AM

The bug was significant enough for Blizzard to test out some pretty severe fixes on the 3.3.5 PTR (see this thread). These were cumbersome enough not to make it to live, so one might presume that the 2T9 trick still works.

That it wasn't a simple fix (it actually removed MA when you changed gear pieces) suggests to me that it wasn't just a tooltip error, but actually affected (and therefore still affects) active crit rating; perhaps the mechanics don't exist to modify the value of an existing buff. Also, it seems to me that you have nothing to lose by doing it - since T10 has no spirit on it you aren't weakening your MA by wearing 2T9 when you cast it.

Aestis · 08/17/10, 5:28 PM

You wouldn't weaken it either way--after the t9 MA is cast it'll scale up/down with changing spirit while still keeping the 15% buff until you recast MA without t9.

Soltarnal · 08/24/10, 4:52 PM

Originally Posted by Morthoul

1. Edit Data/BuffCache.xml (You have to run Rawr at least once to have this; it's not there on a fresh installation.)
2. Find the set named Khadgar's Regalia 2 Piece
3. Change SetName from Khadgar's Regalia to Bloodmage's Regalia
4. Change IsCustom from false to true

This is sloppy but it works. It makes the 2pcT9 bonus be applied by 2 pieces of T10 instead of T9. Confirm that it's working in the Buffs tab:

To revert the change, just delete the file; it will be recreated.

Ok, I have tried and tried to get this working. Not wanting to seem computer illiterate, I kept trying this. But I cannot get it to work.
1) Fresh DL of Rawr2.3.22
2) Open Rawr - close it
3) Edit Data/BuffCache.xml with your changes (Save them)
4) Open Rawr again:
"The current BuffCache.xml file was made with a previous version of Rawr, which is incompatible with the current version. It will be replaced with buff data included in the current version. [OK] "
I click [OK] and the buff is not there.
I re-open BuffCache.xml file and changes are not in there.

Is there any other way to add just this change?

Jept · 08/24/10, 6:00 PM

An even more sloppy method is to add the bonus manually into a piece of gear (one that is sure to be worn, such as the rep ring)

Astrylian · 08/24/10, 6:06 PM

Originally Posted by Soltarnal

Ok, I have tried and tried to get this working. Not wanting to seem computer illiterate, I kept trying this. But I cannot get it to work.
1) Fresh DL of Rawr2.3.22
2) Open Rawr - close it
3) Edit Data/BuffCache.xml with your changes (Save them)
4) Open Rawr again:
"The current BuffCache.xml file was made with a previous version of Rawr, which is incompatible with the current version. It will be replaced with buff data included in the current version. [OK] "
I click [OK] and the buff is not there.
I re-open BuffCache.xml file and changes are not in there.

Is there any other way to add just this change?

You're corrupting the XML file. Be very careful of what you're changing, make sure not to delete or change any of the XML.

Golodhrim · 09/01/10, 8:29 AM

Hi, i'm usually a silent observer of this forum and this one is great. Helped me in many of my decisions. So thank for that first.

Last time i started to compare my WWS logs with the Rawr dps calculations. Because the calculations ara quite far apart.
And i have some problems with them.
Also i know that my dps last time is realy not as good as it should be with my gear. So i look for the reason.

Maybe i set it wrong but just take a look.

I take a simply encounter such as rotface.
My Rawr settings are saved in this file:
Download lbfail.xml

the real fight which is whith it compared is here:
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

so when i compare just the fireball dmg, ignite and Pyro it looks like its ok. I had just a little less crits so i can understand the values.

I have a problem now to understand the diffrence between the rawr calced living bomb dmg and my actual dmg in the logs. According rawr i am missing 60k Living bomb dot tick dmg. This is very unusual for such a relatively static cast.

Also compared with the fight length i have cast almost the same number of Lbs. Well even two more. And the average crit dmg is in the logs lower then the average dmg in Rawr which unfortunately does not differ between normal hits and crits.

So where is the error?

Bornhune · 09/02/10, 10:09 AM

edit: noob mistake sorry. just realised its including 30% of raid buffs etc

Hopefully a quick question,

I've noticed in Rawr my crit rate is always listed as 30% more than my in game rate. Like arcane potency is active permanently or something.

Is this normal ? I've looked through the rawr options but can;t find a arcane potency flag. . just concerned if its advising me thinking my crit is always at that level .

thanks

~J

edit: noob mistake sorry. just realised its including 30% of raid buffs etc

Umbranex · 09/10/10, 7:16 PM

Rawr 2.3.22 shows H DFO > N CTS, but ej/rawr.php shoes N CTS > H DFO. Which is more accurate? I had been assuming that Rawr 3 was accurate, and it's all that I've used for a while now, but after double checking and finding that there's a pretty big discrepancy between what the two versions, I'm worried.

I "upgraded" from heroic spyglass to the normal CTS last night after passing on a couple H DFOs to assure I'd get the first CTS when it dropped, which Rawr3 had been telling me was a good move for months. However, elitistarmory has been down, so I loaded up 2.3.22 only to see that it's telling me H DFO is far superior :\

On a somewhat related issue, Rawr3 says haste is more beneficial than crit at my gear level, while Rawr2 is telling me I should be using sp+crit gems for yellow slots rather than sp+haste. Which is considered more accurate?

Kavan · 09/12/10, 5:22 PM

The mage model hasn't changed for some time now, so the only reason for differences between Rawr2 and Rawr3 that I can imagine is in some gear having wrong stats in one of them. The only way to tell what is going on would be for you to post the character xml where you see the issue.