Rawr.Mage - Page 92

Kavan · 12/13/10, 5:59 PM

Originally Posted by Cryosa

I just took the time to manually setup my character in the latest Rawr, but the mage model only shows 'survivability' for me. The 'dps' number in the lower left corner stays at 0. Is there a problem in the mage model or am I doing something wrong? Other models shows 'threat', 'dps' and/or 'survivabilty'.

Make sure you enter your talents. Currently the list of considered cycles is based on your talent specialization so if you don't have any talents it'll remain 0. I might change this if it is too confusing but unless you enter talents you won't get meaningful results anyway.

Cryosa · 12/13/10, 6:26 PM

Originally Posted by Kavan

Make sure you enter your talents. Currently the list of considered cycles is based on your talent specialization so if you don't have any talents it'll remain 0. I might change this if it is too confusing but unless you enter talents you won't get meaningful results anyway.

That was it. I entered them as one of the first things, but somehow they disappeared... It''s working fine now

Schwierig · 12/15/10, 8:11 AM

I can't select any equipment when starting Rawr, I tried Opera and Firefox. Nothing is working

Valaran · 12/15/10, 8:50 AM

Originally Posted by Schwierig

I can't select any equipment when starting Rawr, I tried Opera and Firefox. Nothing is working

Try Options > Reset Item Cache.

Schwierig · 12/15/10, 1:35 PM

Works for me now, thanks.

Just need to solve the lag problem. Trying out some different browsers now.

Skorp · 12/17/10, 3:07 AM

I've noticed that a green, but very decent trinket in my opinion doesn't even show up. "Harmlight Token". The proc is dot-based and perhaps this is why it is not currently on the list? I've looked but haven't been able to find any proc rate numbers for the trinket.

Terribad · 12/17/10, 6:17 PM

I think there is something wrong iwth the way Rawr values Darkmoon Card: volcano.

It is calculating out to be absolutely terrible, which shouldn't be the case?

The special effect appears to be correct: 1600 int, 100 fire damage. 45 sec icd, 30% chance to proc on damaging spell.

Am I missing something or is this trinket truly worse than Dislodged foreign object?

Also, how would I ho about adding Enchant weapon: Power Torrent and Enchant offhand: intellect? I tried adding them as an item with spell ID to no avail.

Kavan · 12/17/10, 9:28 PM

In the current live version int procs aren't supported, that's why it's showing so low. It should have it for next version.

ironcurtain · 12/18/10, 2:48 PM

Originally Posted by Ronwe

I noticed something that felt strange when using Rawr today.
When i went to the "relative stat value" pannel, for a fire mage in heroic blue / crafted epics here are the values i did find :
(raid buffed)

Intellect : 2.09
Hit : 1.2
Crit : 0.82
Haste : 0.75
Mastery : 0.23

That surprised me quite a lot since I thought that, as is said in the fire mage compendium :
Mastery and Haste are both considerably weaker than Crit. Mastery is slightly better than haste.

What especially surprised me was that Mastery was valued 3 times weaker than haste and 3.5 times weaker than crit when the results found in Lhivera's Simulationcraft directory gives values closer to each other in a similar situation

crit 1.6738
mastery 1.1104

Mastery being a lot closer behind crit in particular.

I've also noticed the huge difference in value of mastery between simulationcraft and rawr, and that leaves me with a bit of a problem, which number should I use when considering if an item is an upgrade or not?

Anyone have any information on why there is such a huge difference in value?

nitrax · 12/19/10, 5:31 PM

i have that same question. can those stats be altered or are those the correct stats we need to work towards now?

cbags · 12/20/10, 1:00 PM

In the older versions of RAWR, there was a setting to "Force Metagem Requirements" but I am not finding that now. Is it intrinsically set to always try and gem based on your meta gems? In the lastest run, it has me using the the Chaotic Shadowspirit, but is running a full boat of red gems, and the meta likely wouldn't be active.

Astrylian · 12/20/10, 3:12 PM

You're thinking of "Enforce Metagem Requirements" which is indeed always on now. ie, you won't get a benefit of your metagem if you don't meet the requirements. Sounds like in your case, the metagem is simply inactive, and that's optimal for your available gear (though probably could be better by using one of the 'crappy' but easy to activate metas instead).

cbags · 12/20/10, 4:06 PM

Just to be sure, I tried removing it, and the DPS values did change when I removed it, so it appears to acting like the meta is active. I had a dps of 13366 with the gem, and when I removed it, and inserted the Austere Shadowsopirit(to keep the socket bonus active), I had a DPS value of 13436.

What I notice is that the gemming, has 2x Veiled Demonseye, and the rest are all Brilliant Inferno. The Chaotics were "supposed" to get reverted back to requiring only 2 blue, but that has yet to happen.

Kavan · 12/20/10, 9:40 PM

Check Options->Edit Options and make sure Enforce Gem Requirements is set.

hypetech · 12/21/10, 2:49 AM

I noticed that as a frost mage in Rawr, the optimizer begins to reforge my crit away to haste at around 28-29% crit on the display screen. This seems pretty close to 5% away from the 33.34% that I would actually expect this behavior at as frost. Is there a hidden 5% somewhere that isn't displaying on the stat screen, or is there something else going on here that I have overlooked?