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Old 12/29/10, 8:38 AM   #1396
BeeLz
Don Flamenco
 
Undead Mage
 
Frostmane (EU)
[Theralion's Mirror] is ranked very low on my rawr. While the proc seems to be there in theory it's ranked on par with [Fall of Mortality]. So I guess it's safe to assume the proc isn't properly configurated, any way to bypass this?

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Old 12/29/10, 11:13 AM   #1397
daygotdis
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Night Elf Druid
 
Mannoroth
It seems that Rawr ran in Explorer is only showing Survivability as a measure and not taking DPS into account at all. I tried changing the survivability value in the survivability tab to zero, but it just applies a zero benefit to all gear. Any suggestions?

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Old 12/29/10, 12:50 PM   #1398
Astrylian
Rawr
 
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Night Elf Monk
 
Stormrage
Originally Posted by daygotdis View Post
It seems that Rawr ran in Explorer is only showing Survivability as a measure and not taking DPS into account at all. I tried changing the survivability value in the survivability tab to zero, but it just applies a zero benefit to all gear. Any suggestions?
Sounds like you're in the wrong model. Make sure you're in the Mage model.

Rawr!

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Old 12/29/10, 1:36 PM   #1399
codeviper
Glass Joe
 
Human Paladin
 
Boulderfist
Astrylian, I'm receiving the same issue as well on rawr displaying the survivability ratings. The hot streak analyzer and other options found in the mage model are present, so I'm sure i'm in the mage model.

All I did to reproduce it:

Opened up firefox, went to rawr, and loaded my mage from armory. Upon the completion of loading I'm presented with only survivability ratings. Any sort of changes to simply show the dps/overall/survivability doesn't change anything.

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Old 12/29/10, 1:38 PM   #1400
Kavan
Bald Bull
 
Gnome Mage
 
Kilrogg
Check this if it applies in your case (regarding no dps shown): Rawr - Rawr - View Issue #19479: [Mage] Results showing Survival and not DPS

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Old 12/30/10, 10:41 AM   #1401
Regwinthemage
Von Kaiser
 
Human Mage
 
Dalaran
Apologies if this has already been answered, but I couldn't find another post on it. What setting do I need to change to make the Phylactery of the Nameless Lich model correctly? A picture sums up why I think its bugged better than a long explanation.




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Old 12/30/10, 11:02 AM   #1402
BeeLz
Don Flamenco
 
Undead Mage
 
Frostmane (EU)
I just deleted all stats from the trinket because it's not relevant anymore. I have no idea how to show it correctly though.

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Old 12/30/10, 5:58 PM   #1403
Regwinthemage
Von Kaiser
 
Human Mage
 
Dalaran
Next question (I think this is the same thing cbags was asking about earlier, I'll try to be more clear). This may be a misunderstanding of how to interpret some rawr output, if so, clarifications would be appreciated.

So, i start by checking the rank on the meta choice I have.


Looking good, 16K calculated dps. I'm happy.

Now I look at the ranking for some other gems I have like the Piercing Dream Emerald in my gloves I need to keep my meta alive.



I'm surprised to find that Rawr is telling me to use pure red gems in this glove socket, as I know it will break my meta. So I equip the Brilliant Inferno Ruby.



Bam, calculated dps drops to 15.6 k. That seems right, but it seems counter-intuitive that Rawr would direct me to choose this gem choice when it "knows" it will drop my dps. So I check a few things. The default setting to enforce gem requirements is enabled. I start swapping to red int gems in all the sockets until my hit drops to about 1666 at which point it starts directing me to pick blue hit gems. At no point when I'm fiddling around with the gem choices do I come out with a calculated dps higher than what i started with, so I don't think the program is trying to move me out of some local maximum to a higher one farther out. Am I misinterpreting what the gem choice rankings are really telling me here?

Anyway, I ran the optimizer and it did squeeze out a couple more dps with a meta gem change, but rawr is still telling me to pick the meta that won't activate with the new gem choices. Weird.


Last edited by Regwinthemage : 12/30/10 at 6:14 PM.

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Old 12/31/10, 3:30 PM   #1404
Shaitans
Von Kaiser
 
Troll Mage
 
Dragonmaw
@Regwin

The current interation of Rawr.mage is obviously not perfect as indicated by the post related to Phylactery. However, to your issue, I believe that rawr will tend to look at the individual gems per slot on an individual basis. That is to say, that purely based on the stats provided by the gem and/or socket bonus, it will rank the gems. It will not consider the fact that changing the gem would break the Meta unless you run the optimizer which should recommend the necessary amount of blue gems necessary to keep the Meta working.

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Old 12/31/10, 5:04 PM   #1405
Evilzoidberg
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Mage
 
Lothar
See, I'm not sure if it is. I thought i fixed it, but its back to gemming mostly reds. No matter what combination of options I use, it doesn't seem to care.

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Old 12/31/10, 8:55 PM   #1406
kilkenny78
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Proudmoore
Im not sure what the issue is, when I use the optimizer I keep getting the following message.

The following currently equipped items are not available

- Rigid Cogwheel is not available
- Smooth Cogwheel is not available
- Lightning Dream Emerald is not avaialble

can anyone give me a hand on what I can do to fix this.. thanks

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Old 12/31/10, 9:59 PM   #1407
Tyfon
Von Kaiser
 
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Worgen Mage
 
Suramar
Re: gems: Make sure you guys have both the chaotic and the ember meta gems marked as available. If you only have chaotic marked, Rawr will correctly ignore it and gem for intellect.

@kilkenny: It means exactly what it says - you have those items equipped but not marked as available. The optimizer will only consider items/gems/enchantments that are marked. You mark items by clicking the diamond icon next to it so that the diamond fills in.

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Old 01/01/11, 12:16 AM   #1408
Morthoul
Von Kaiser
 
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Pandaren Mage
 
Shadowmoon
Originally Posted by kilkenny78 View Post
The following currently equipped items are not available

- Rigid Cogwheel is not available
- Smooth Cogwheel is not available
- Lightning Dream Emerald is not avaialble

can anyone give me a hand on what I can do to fix this.. thanks
I have the same issue with Rigid and Smooth Cogwheel. They're selected in Gems -> Cogwheels, and I went and added them in some Gem Templates just to be redundant, but the optimizer still claims they're unavailable.

Fortunately the error message seems spurious. For example, if I change my Smooth Cogwheel to Fractured (deliberately to choose something bad), then optimize, the optimizer recommends I turn it back to Smooth, even after claiming Smooth Cogwheel was unavailable.

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Old 01/01/11, 2:44 PM   #1409
AeroProj
Glass Joe
 
Goblin Mage
 
Andorhal
Stat Priority

I have a question about the model, and how it aligns with the stat priorities that were listed in the Fire Mage compendium thread. In that thread, the author states that theorycrafting shows the stat priority as follows:

Int>Haste (to soft cap)>Hit (to Cap)>SP>Crit>Mast>Haste (after soft cap)

In my testing of the model, I show as having 14.25% haste (4.59% from gear (588 rating), 5% WoA totem, 1.01 modifier for goblin, 1.03 for NP). This puts me above the haste soft cap of 12.75% by a considerable margin. Using this, combined with the info from the compendium thread, it would logically follow that I should be going for more mastery over haste. However, the tool is instructing me to make adjustments (reforge/gear/gems) that would move out of mastery and add even more haste (eg instead of having a reforge from haste -->hit change it to mastery --> hit). I am not sure which is the correct model to follow. Any help would be appreciated.

Character is Aerowynn-Andorhal if that helps/is needed.

Thanks.

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Old 01/01/11, 8:49 PM   #1410
kilkenny78
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Proudmoore
I double checked to ensure my cogs were checked with a green diamond.. they are all checked, still coming up with the same issue of not being available..

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