General Mage Discussion and Information - Page 43

kamap · 06/08/10, 4:48 AM

You can hang on to the hot streak aslong as there is no chance you will overwrite it.
So if your next fireball crits, you cast another fireball and pyro right after.
If it didn't crit you can hang onto it a cast longer and get the most out of your haste buff.
If there are multiple mobs and living bomb is about to go boom, fire pyro, the chance is to big that the living bomb explosion will give you another hot streak.

So best thing to do is hang onto it till there is a chance you'll get another hot streak, or till pushing the limit has run out.

A few pages back there has been an discussion about it check: Mage: Simple Questions/Simple Answers

Chillchaos · 06/08/10, 7:24 AM

Originally Posted by crystalflame

scorch is up,living bomb is up and you are fireballing:
hotstreak procs
pyroblast
fireball
hoststreak procs

This above scenario couldn't happen as such, since pyroblast doesn't count towards HS procs.
The only way it could happen as such, would be if your LB went of in the mean while.

And in that case, the answer to your question is easy.
Hold on to the HS proc, refresh LB first!

kamap · 06/08/10, 7:35 AM

Its true that the example can't happen, but its not true that you then have to refresh LB first, it has all to do with your haste, if you are able to push out an extra fb, while under PTL by not refreshing LB might be more beneficial if you don't have a chance to overwrite a hs proc.
Just check the previous discussion I linked before.

Morthoul · 07/12/10, 2:34 PM

Originally Posted by Maje

Kind of pointless discussion and analysis, the bug was fixed in 3.3.5 so from that, one can assume it's the genuine article.

However the horrible part is how they chose to fix it; now every time you change a piece of gear Molten Armor is removed, and by every I mean ANY piece, you change your weapon it's removed, your of hand it's removed.

Just for the record (for people going through old posts and wondering why we talk about something that never happened), the fix was reverted on the PTR and never went live. Most likely, Blizzard realized that the fix had too many side-effects and the cure was worse than the disease -- something several of us pointed out on the PTR forum.

Kolenzo · 07/13/10, 1:02 AM

Originally Posted by crystalflame

Hello, this might have been answered already but i couldn't find information on it

With the haste proc benefit from the T10 as a mage, take a look at the fallowing scenario:
scorch is up,living bomb is up and you are fireballing:
hotstreak procs
pyroblast
fireball
hoststreak procs

Now since the buff from T10 is still on, do you go ahead and pyroblast right away, or you wait and fireball untill the buff is almost off and then pyroblast in order to keep the haste buff up.
What is better for dps, i have been hesitating on using pyroblast right away, and instead just fireball once more and then do it in order to keep the haste buff on as much as i can.

Is this correct or no? thanks ^^

This is correct, hang on to your hot streak until your 2pce expires unless you risk it being overwritten. In order to do this effectively, you need to monitor your crits, duration remaining on living bomb (and how many targets the explosion will hit) and any spells you have midair. For example:

Living bomb has 1.5 sec left
2pce has 2.5 sec left
You just launched a fireball and it's midair still

In this situation, you would want to use your pyroblast.

Living bomb has 6 sec left
2pce has 2 sec left
You have one previous crit and are halfway through another fireball

Again, in this situation, drop your pyro as soon as the fireball cast ends or you risk your hotstreak being overwritten.

Living bomb has 5 sec left
2pce has 3 sec left
No previous crits, fireball midair

In this situation, cast another fireball. If the midair fireball doesn't crit, you can cast another fireball after that one before burning your hot streak.

Any time your living bomb is going to hit 2 or more targets, I would recommend firing pyroblast before that explosion.