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Old 10/29/09, 12:14 AM   #801
Docmdnite
Glass Joe
 
Gnome Mage
 
Doomhammer
It's been a while since I ran optimizer but I do recall Rawr rated Talisman of Resurgence pretty high for Arcane mages. I am at a point right now fully 25m raid buffed I have 32k mana, that much mana is in its self a dps increase. The longer you can sustain your rotation before having to Evo is more dps on the target down range, which is why it is rated highly for Arcane mages.
 
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Old 11/03/09, 9:06 PM   #802
Ring0
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Blood Elf Mage
 
Shadowsong (EU)
The true power of the Talisman of Resurgence is giving you an extra chunk of mana that can be used for some extra Arcane Blast spam, as well as the powerful use effect. The value of this trinket will vary with your gear (as is often repeated in these forums: use Rawr), but it is definitely very powerful in an end-game setting. Correct usage of extra Arcane Blast spam on certain encounters can have a huge effect in Trial of the Grand Crusader (Twins shield, Icehowl stun, Jaraxus portals).

There are very few trinkets that compare to it, in fact the only superior combination is Reign of the Unliving 258 paired with the 245 version. If you don't have access to the hard mode version, but can obtain a normal Reign of the Dead, Talisman of Resurgence will be your trinket of choice for your second slot as an Arcane Mage. It's value can only increase with lower tier gear so fresh 80's would do well to make this one of their first acquisitions.
 
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Old 11/04/09, 2:03 PM   #803
Daytrader
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Gnome Mage
 
Mal'Ganis
I searched all the threads here looking for the answer to the question:

How much haste from gear do I need to bring Arcane Blast cast time to 1 second with IV and Heroism popped?

But could not find a clear answer.

Here are my calculations. Please confirm my math if I missed anything, particularly in the order of operations.
Also, am I doing the calculations correctly for the usable items that affect Haste Rating? For example, are they added directly to the Haste Rating from gear(X)? Or are they multiplicative, separate from Haste Rating from gear?

1% Haste = 32.78998947 Haste Rating
Base cast time = 2.5 Seconds
6% from Talents
5% from Totem
3% from Druid/Pally
30% from Heroism
20% from IV
X= Haste Rating from Gear

Final_cast_time = 2.5 / (1 + X/32.78998947/100) / 1.06 / 1.05 / 1.03 / 1.3 / 1.2 = 1

Solving for X

X = 1304.79

1304.79/32.78998947 = 39.793275%

With Potion of Speed (500 rating): 804.79/32.78998947 = 24.543771%

With Scale of the Fates (432 rating): 872.79/32.78998947 = 26.617574%

With Haste Potion and Scale of the Fates (932 rating): 372.79/32.78998947 = 11.369018%


If we remove Heroism:

X = 2679.92

So to reach GCD cap on our own we would need:

2679.92 - 500 - 432 = 1747.92 or 53.306513% (non-troll)

1686.77 - 500 - 432 = 754.77 or 23.018305% (troll)

This is a good example of how haste scales with itself when stacked.

Last edited by Daytrader : 11/04/09 at 5:31 PM.
 
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Old 11/04/09, 4:47 PM   #804
Focal
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Kel'Thuzad
Originally Posted by Daytrader View Post
With Haste Potion (400 rating)
Haste Pots are 500 rating.

There was a post in the arcane thread a while back I believe the number they ended up with was 804 as the soft cap without the the use of Scale of Fates. (Raid Buffs + IV + BL/Hero + Potion of Speed)
 
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Old 11/05/09, 12:48 AM   #805
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Alleria
Originally Posted by lillbrorsan View Post
Nice work on the BiS 245lvl list Noshei, i noticed however you said it does not contain any 25man heroic loot, i am wondering if theres any definitive BiS list using all the gear available in ToC/Ulduar etc?
Seen 2 different BiS lists and i also tried Rawr which gave me a completely different list.
Agreed, the post here is fantastic for BiS ToC 10/H10, and 25. Is there one similar to this but including ToC H 25? If so and I've missed it, my apologies.
 
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Old 11/05/09, 7:13 AM   #806
Noshei
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you can find that here Optimal Sets / Item Discussion
 
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Old 11/05/09, 9:25 AM   #807
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Originally Posted by Noshei View Post
you can find that here Optimal Sets / Item Discussion
Thanks! Really appreciate the link =)
 
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