Docmdnite

It's been a while since I ran optimizer but I do recall Rawr rated Talisman of Resurgence pretty high for Arcane mages. I am at a point right now fully 25m raid buffed I have 32k mana, that much mana is in its self a dps increase. The longer you can sustain your rotation before having to Evo is more dps on the target down range, which is why it is rated highly for Arcane mages.

 

Ring0

The true power of the Talisman of Resurgence is giving you an extra chunk of mana that can be used for some extra Arcane Blast spam, as well as the powerful use effect. The value of this trinket will vary with your gear (as is often repeated in these forums: use Rawr), but it is definitely very powerful in an end-game setting. Correct usage of extra Arcane Blast spam on certain encounters can have a huge effect in Trial of the Grand Crusader (Twins shield, Icehowl stun, Jaraxus portals).

There are very few trinkets that compare to it, in fact the only superior combination is Reign of the Unliving 258 paired with the 245 version. If you don't have access to the hard mode version, but can obtain a normal Reign of the Dead, Talisman of Resurgence will be your trinket of choice for your second slot as an Arcane Mage. It's value can only increase with lower tier gear so fresh 80's would do well to make this one of their first acquisitions.

 

Daytrader

I searched all the threads here looking for the answer to the question:

How much haste from gear do I need to bring Arcane Blast cast time to 1 second with IV and Heroism popped?

But could not find a clear answer.

Here are my calculations. Please confirm my math if I missed anything, particularly in the order of operations.
Also, am I doing the calculations correctly for the usable items that affect Haste Rating? For example, are they added directly to the Haste Rating from gear(X)? Or are they multiplicative, separate from Haste Rating from gear?

1% Haste = 32.78998947 Haste Rating
Base cast time = 2.5 Seconds
6% from Talents
5% from Totem
3% from Druid/Pally
30% from Heroism
20% from IV
X= Haste Rating from Gear

Final_cast_time = 2.5 / (1 + X/32.78998947/100) / 1.06 / 1.05 / 1.03 / 1.3 / 1.2 = 1

Solving for X

X = 1304.79

1304.79/32.78998947 = 39.793275%

With Potion of Speed (500 rating): 804.79/32.78998947 = 24.543771%

With Scale of the Fates (432 rating): 872.79/32.78998947 = 26.617574%

With Haste Potion and Scale of the Fates (932 rating): 372.79/32.78998947 = 11.369018%


If we remove Heroism:

X = 2679.92

So to reach GCD cap on our own we would need:

2679.92 - 500 - 432 = 1747.92 or 53.306513% (non-troll)

1686.77 - 500 - 432 = 754.77 or 23.018305% (troll)

This is a good example of how haste scales with itself when stacked.

 

Focal

Haste Pots are 500 rating.

There was a post in the arcane thread a while back I believe the number they ended up with was 804 as the soft cap without the the use of Scale of Fates. (Raid Buffs + IV + BL/Hero + Potion of Speed)

 

Scrimshaw

Agreed, the post here is fantastic for BiS ToC 10/H10, and 25. Is there one similar to this but including ToC H 25? If so and I've missed it, my apologies.

 

Noshei

you can find that here Optimal Sets / Item Discussion

 

Scrimshaw

Thanks! Really appreciate the link =)

 

LordSyth

If anyone is interested, here's the BiS list if you have access to every loot except Anub'arak 25man heroic and 25man tribute chest.

Talent Build: 57/3/11

Professions:
Jewelcrafting
Enchanting

DPS: 10111.8

Helm:	[Sunstrider's Hood of Triumph]	[Chaotic Skyflare Diamond]	[Purified Dreadstone]		[Arcanum of Burning Mysteries]
Neck:	[Cry of the Val'kyr]	[Reckless Ametrine]
Shoulders:	[Sunstrider's Shoulderpads of Triumph]	[Purified Dreadstone]			[Greater Inscription of the Storm ]
Back:	[Drape of the Sunreavers]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby]			[Formula: Enchant Cloak - Greater Speed]
Chest:	[Flowing Robes of Ascent]	[Purified Dreadstone]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby]	[Reckless Ametrine]	[Scroll of Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats]
Wrist:	[Felspark Bracers]	[Reckless Ametrine]			[Scroll of Enchant Bracer - Superior Spellpower]
Hands:	[Sunstrider's Gauntlets of Triumph]	[Runed Dragon's Eye]			[Scroll of Enchant Gloves - Exceptional Spellpower]
Waist:	[Belt of the Tenebrous Mist]	[Reckless Ametrine]	[Runed Dragon's Eye]	[Runed Dragon's Eye]	[Eternal Belt Buckle]
Legs:	[Sunstrider's Leggings of Triumph]	[Reckless Ametrine]	[Reckless Ametrine]		[Brilliant Spellthread]
Boots:	[Sandals of the Mourning Widow]	[Purified Dreadstone]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby]		[Scroll of Enchant Boots - Tuskarr's Vitality]
Finger:	[Conductive Seal]	[Purified Dreadstone]			+23 Spell Power
Finger:	[Circle of the Darkmender]	[Reckless Ametrine]			+23 Spell Power
Trinket:	[Reign of the Dead]
Trinket:	[Flare of the Heavens]
Main Hand:	[Barb of Tarasque]	[Purified Dreadstone]			[Scroll of Enchant Weapon - Mighty Spellpower]
Off Hand:	[Lightbane Focus]	[Veiled Ametrine]
Wand:	[Scepter of Imprisoned Souls]

 

Kolenzo

I've been working on a set for no hit buffs (which I often find to be the issues in 10mans). So, assuming no draenei/moonkin/spriest... this is what I've got for 20/51/0

Proffesions:
Engineering
Tailoring

[Khadgar's Hood of Triumph] 30sp/20crit, chaotic skyflare, 12sp/10spi
[Cry of the Val'kyr] 12sp/10haste
[Khadgar's Shoulderpads of Triumph] 24sp/15crit, 23sp
[Jaina's Radiance] Lightweave, 23sp
[Skyweaver Robes] 15spirit, 12sp/10spi, 12sp/10haste, 23sp
[Bindings of Dark Essence] 30sp, 12sp/10haste
[Khadgar's Gauntlets of Triumph] Hyperspeed Accelerators, 23sp
[Cord of Biting Cold] frag belt, 12sp/10spi, 23sp, 23sp
[Khadgar's Leggings of Triumph] 50sp/20spi, 12sp/10haste, 12sp/10haste
[Footpads of the Icy Floe] nitro boosts, 12sp/10spi, 23sp
[Band of Deplorable Violence] 12sp/10haste
[Firestorm Band] 23sp
[Reign of the Unliving]
[Reign of the Unliving] (245)
[Blade of the Unbroken Covenant] 63sp, 12sp/10haste
[Symbol of Transgression]
[Rod of Imprisoned Souls]


3147 spell power
814 crit rating
446 hit rating (17.00% exactly)
641 haste rating
445 spirit (with 3/3 sotm)

Plus the obvious bonus effects provided by proffessions and the two reigns.

Profiler - Wowhead

 

Tag of Fire

I've been trying to make two gear sets for Herald of the Titans and A Tribute to Dedicated Insanity (just in case) but I have no idea what stat combinations truly give the highest DPS.

Anyone who can help me out here? Currently I'm using the Frostfire spec, I got Enchanting/Tailoring as professions.

Herald of the Titans requires that all gear is max iLv226, with the exception of weapons and ranged, they can be iLv232 if they're from Ulduar 10 or Trial of the Crusader (Onyxia 10/25 and Ulduar 25 weapons fails the achievement).

The requirements for A Tribute to Dedicated Insanity are a bit bigger:

You can use:
• Any item below item level 245.
• The item level 245 set pieces that drop from 25-player Trial of the Crusader but also appear in the 10-player Tribute Chest.
• Any gear that drops in 10-player Trial of the Crusader or Trial of the Grand Crusader, including item level 245 Trial of the Grand Crusader drops and item level 258 cloaks from the 10-player Tribute Chest
• Any item level 245 items purchased with Badges of Triumph.
• Any item level 245 Bind on Equip item, including crafted pieces.

You cannot use:
• Any item level 245 item not included above (primarily Bind on Pickup drops from 25-player Trial of the Crusader, but also notably Val’anyr).
• Any item over item level 245 except for the 10-player Tribute cloak.
• Any higher item level loot introduced in future patches (25 player Onyxia 245s, Icecrown loot in the future, etc.)

 

Randull

This post 2 pages back pretty much nails your BIS Dedicated Insanity sets. The only item in either set that doesn't obey the rules is 245[Reign of the Dead], which you can sub down to the next best trinket.

As for your Herald of the Titans set, farming gear specifically for that fight seems counter productive to me. It will be better for you to just tick off what you have available that matches the rules in Rawr, and see what optimization it gives you.
Some key pieces to look at will be the 226 crafted belt/boots, 232 weapons from 10 TOC (either [Illumination] or [Sunreaver Disciple's Blade]+[Lightbane Focus]) and 4pc T8.5 with the very best 226 off-set piece you can acquire for the spec you choose to play.

 

TimWischmeier

If I remember correctly, you cannot use any iLevel 332 Weapons for those achievement except the ones from Ulduar10H. We never tested those in our raid, but we read about that on wowhead and heard it from another guild on our server.

Additionally, another guild also told us that they failed that achievement when one of their raidmembers had the ring from the Ulduar10 Algalon questline equipped.

 

Pasture

Looking ahead to Icecrown at trinkets, since they're always the most dynamic of gear choices, we have these two released so far. (They're not available on wowhead for quick links yet.)

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10 man Muradin's Spyglass - Items - Sigrie
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 131.
Equip: Each time you deal spell damage to an opponent, you gain 18 spell power for the next 10 sec, stacking up to 10 times.

25 man Dislodged Foreign Object - Items - Sigrie
Equip: Improves haste rating by 155.
Equip: Your harmful spells have a chance to increase your spell power by 105 and an additional 105 every 2.0 sec for 20 sec.


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Looking from an Arcane perspective the latter almost has too much haste, while the former is a buffed Razorscale 10 trinket.

 

Hidden

I find the haste trinket to be really great. If you could wear two of them, I'd agree that there's too much haste. However it says "Unique: Dislodged Foreign Object (1)" so I assume you'll only be able to wear it once (unlike for Reign which you can wear twice, once with an ilevel of 245 and once with an ilevel of 258). I know that the TotGC trinkets had those unique flags on the PTR as well but I assume they were removed because TotGC wasn't big enough to have two different trinkets of each type drop, which isn't the case with Icecrown.

The proc seems to be very strong, some napkin maths assuming the standard 45sec ICD and ~50 seconds between procs:
SP(min): 105
SP(max): 105+(18/2)*105=1050
Average SP gain while proc active: (105+1050)/2=577.5
Average SP gain overall: 577.5*20/50=231

Using the same assumptions, Flare of the Heavens for example grants only 170 SP, 61 less than the Icecrown trinket.

 

Tag of Fire

Oh that looks nice. And I didn't know of Rawr, so thanks. =D

I asked around on the WoW Europe forums and some have completed this achievement with TotC10 weapons equipped. Onyxia 10 weapons however do still seem not eligible, at least until proven otherwise.

And thanks for the heads up about that ring, although it is weird since it comes from Ulduar 10.

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I have made the following set for Herald of the Titans, excluding Algalon 10 loot, tuned for Frostfire, using Enchanting and Tailoring:

Item	Enchant	Gems	Source
[Conqueror's Kirin Tor Hood]	[Arcanum of Burning Mysteries]	[Swift Skyflare Diamond] [Runed Cardinal Ruby]	Thorim 25 or 58 [Emblem of Conquest]
[Pendant of the Shallow Grave]		[Potent Ametrine]	Thorim 10 (Hard Mode)
[Amice of Inconceivable Horror]	[Greater Inscription of the Storm ]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby] [Potent Ametrine]	Yogg-Saron 10
[Pennant Cloak]	Lightweave Embroidery	[Purified Dreadstone]	Sartharion 25 (2 Dragons up)
[Conqueror's Kirin Tor Tunic]	Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats	[Purified Dreadstone] [Potent Ametrine]	Hodir 25 or 58 [Emblem of Conquest]
[Bracers of Unleashed Magic]	Enchant Bracers - Superior Spellpower		Kologarn 25
[Conqueror's Kirin Tor Gauntlets]	Enchant Gloves - Exceptional Spellpower	[Potent Ametrine]	Mimiron 25 or Emalon 25
[Cord of the White Dawn]	[Eternal Belt Buckle]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby] [Potent Ametrine] [Runed Cardinal Ruby]	Tailoring
[Conqueror's Kirin Tor Leggings]	[Brilliant Spellthread]	[Runed Cardinal Ruby] [Purified Dreadstone]	Freya 25 or Emalon 25
[Savior's Slippers]	Enchant Boots - Icewalker	[Runed Cardinal Ruby] [Purified Dreadstone]	Tailoring
[Signet of Soft Lament]	Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower	[Runed Cardinal Ruby]	Yogg-Saron 10
[Shimmering Seal]	Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower	[Runed Cardinal Ruby]	Flame Leviathan 10 (4 Towers up)
[Eye of the Broodmother]			Razorscale 10
[Scale of Fates]			Thorim 25
[Illumination]	Enchant Staff - Greater Spellpower	[Purified Dreadstone] [Potent Ametrine]	Twin Val'kyr 10
[Scepter of Imprisoned Souls]			Northrend Beasts 10

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Also made a Frostfire Enchanting/Tailoring set for A Tribute to Dedicated Insanity.

Item	Enchant	Gems	Source
[Sunstrider's Hood of Triumph]	[Arcanum of Burning Mysteries]	[Swift Skyflare Diamond] [Purified Dreadstone]	75 [Emblem of Triumph] + [Trophy of the Crusade]
[Sapphire Amulet of Renewal]		[Runed Cardinal Ruby]	Assembly of Iron 25 (Steelbreaker Hard Mode)
[Sunstrider's Shoulderpads of Triumph]	[Greater Inscription of the Storm ]	[Purified Dreadstone]	45 [Emblem of Triumph] + [Trophy of the Crusade]
[Drape of the Sunreavers]	Lightweave Embroidery	[Runed Cardinal Ruby]	Tribute Chest 10 (50 attempts remaining)
[Merlin's Robe]	Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats	[Purified Dreadstone] [Potent Ametrine] [Runed Cardinal Ruby]	Tailoring
[Bejeweled Wizard's Bracers]	Enchant Bracers - Superior Spellpower	[Purified Dreadstone]	Tailoring
[Sunstrider's Gauntlets of Triumph]	Enchant Gloves - Exceptional Spellpower	[Runed Cardinal Ruby]	45 [Emblem of Triumph] + [Trophy of the Crusade] or Koralon 25
[Icehowl Binding]	[Eternal Belt Buckle]	[Potent Ametrine] [Runed Cardinal Ruby] [Runed Cardinal Ruby]
[Sunstrider's Leggings of Triumph]	[Brilliant Spellthread]	[Potent Ametrine] [Potent Ametrine]	75 [Emblem of Triumph] + [Trophy of the Crusade] or Koralon 25
[Sunreaver Magus' Sandals]	Enchant Boots - Icewalker	[Potent Ametrine] [Runed Cardinal Ruby]	Faction Champions 10 (Heroic)
[Firestorm Band]	Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower	[Runed Cardinal Ruby]	Lord Jaraxxus 10 (Heroic)
[Shimmering Seal]	Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower	[Runed Cardinal Ruby]	Flame Leviathan 10 (4 Towers up)
[Flare of the Heavens]			General Vezax 25 (Hard Mode)
[Eye of the Broodmother]			Razorscale 10
[Illumination]	Enchant Staff - Greater Spellpower	[Purified Dreadstone] [Potent Ametrine] [Potent Ametrine]	Twin Val'kyr 10 (Heroic)
[Scepter of Imprisoned Souls]			Northrend Beasts 10 (Heroic)

 

elluminea

It has a 20 second effect, are you sure it isn't on a 120 second cooldown to match the 'on use' trinkets with similar durations? Most proc trinkets (if not all of them) so far have had 10 second durations.

 

Tedronai

It may have a 20 second duration, but that's offset by ramping spellpower effect. Hidden's math is what I came up with as well, so it being slightly better than flare of the heavens is right where it should be and wouldn't warrant a longer icd.