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Old 06/22/10, 11:31 AM   #926
Elyasviel
Von Kaiser
 
Human Mage
 
Blackrock
With Patch 3.3.5 out on US servers tomorrow and the impending arrival of Ruby Sanctum, has anybody Simmed the Best-In-Slot Lists in regards to replacing [The Lady's Brittle Bracers] with [Bracers of Fiery Night]? I am assuming that the heroic version would most definitely be BIS as it gives us Crit/Haste/SP and most probably an ilvl increase over [The Lady's Brittle Bracers]. Thinking of getting a [Loop of the Endless Labyrinth] in place of [Ring of Rapid Ascent] to make up for the lost Spell Hit from bracers.

In addition, how does [Charred Twilight Scale] stand up to its ICC predecessors? Would it replace [Dislodged Foreign Object] or [Phylactery of the Nameless Lich] in Fire 3.3.5 BIS Lists?

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Old 06/22/10, 1:01 PM   #927
Fth.Greatschock
Glass Joe
 
Troll Mage
 
Nazjatar (EU)
AFAIK the hard-mode loots are unknown.
Changing the Ring to make up for the lost Hitrating of Lady's Brittle Bracers seems a good Idea, but neither normal mode Trinket nor the bracer/ring combo can keep up with the 277 items

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Old 06/22/10, 1:17 PM   #928
andastra
Don Flamenco
 
Human Mage
 
Kilrogg
Considering Halion's normal mode loot is the same as LK's normal mode, it's not a stretch to assume a similar jump for his heroic mode. The hard mode loot would normally be virtually identical in stat distribution, with possibly some stats taken out in favor of an extra gem slot.

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Old 06/24/10, 11:37 AM   #929
Failkeqz
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Goblin Mage
 
Nathrezim (EU)
This is what i came up for Fire BiS including Ruby Heroic Loot

For Jewelcrafting + Alchemy
Full Raidbuffed and a Demo-Lock with Average 5300 Spellpower


[Sanctified Bloodmage Hood]
[Blood Queen's Crimson Choker]
[Sanctified Bloodmage Shoulderpads]
[Robe of the Waking Nightmare]
[Crushing Coldwraith Belt]
[Sanctified Bloodmage Leggings]
[Plague Scientist's Boots]
[Bracers of Fiery Night]
[Sanctified Bloodmage Gloves]
[Ring of Rapid Ascent]
[Ashen Band of Endless Destruction]
[Phylactery of the Nameless Lich]
[Charred Twilight Scale]
[Cloak of Burning Dusk]
[Bloodsurge, Kel'Thuzad's Blade of Agony]
[Shadow Silk Spindle]
[Corpse-Impaling Spike]

Sockets:

Blue Sockets: 8x [Purified Dreadstone]
Yellow Sockets: 2x [Veiled Ametrine], 3x [Reckless Ametrine]
Red Sockets: 3x [Runed Dragon's Eye], 4x [Potent Ametrine]

Crit Rating: 1669 (70,35%)
Haste Rating: 1096 (44,30%)
Hit Rating: 369 (17,07%)
Spellpower: 4089

Dps: 16061,64

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Old 06/24/10, 12:01 PM   #930
Morthiras
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Zirkel des Cenarius (EU)
Morthiras' Best Sets


Considering correct set bonuses and item proc chances as well as enchanting and tailoring, these are my updated lists for the best fire and arcane sets I came up with for my undead Horde mage:


Morthiras' Best Fire SetTalents: 18/53/0DPS (Rawr): >= 15,241.49
SocketItemGemsEnchant
Head[Sanctified Bloodmage Hood]
[Chaotic Skyflare Diamond]
[Purified Dreadstone]
Bonus:+9 Spell Power
[Arcanum of Burning Mysteries]
Neck[Blood Queen's Crimson Choker]
[Purified Dreadstone]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
 
Shoulder[Sanctified Bloodmage Shoulderpads]
[Veiled Ametrine]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Greater Inscription of the Storm]
Back[Cloak of Burning Dusk]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Lightweave Embroidery]
Chest[Robe of the Waking Nightmare]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
[Purified Dreadstone]
[Veiled Ametrine]
Bonus:+9 Spell Power
[Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats]
Wrist[Bracers of Fiery Night]
[Potent Ametrine]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Enchant Bracers - Superior Spellpower]
Hands[Sanctified Bloodmage Gloves]
[Purified Dreadstone]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Enchant Gloves - Exceptional Spellpower]
Waist[Crushing Coldwraith Belt]
[Purified Dreadstone]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
Bonus:+7 Spell Power
[Eternal Belt Buckle]
Legs[Sanctified Bloodmage Leggings]
[Purified Dreadstone]
[Veiled Ametrine]
Bonus:+7 Spell Power
[Sanctified Spellthread]
Feet[Plague Scientist's Boots]
[Purified Dreadstone]
[Potent Ametrine]
Bonus:+7 Spell Power
[Enchant Boots - Tuskarr's Vitality]
Finger[Ashen Band of Endless Destruction]
[Potent Ametrine]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower]
Finger[Ring of Rapid Ascent]
[Purified Dreadstone]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower]
Trinket[Phylactery of the Nameless Lich]  
Trinket[Charred Twilight Scale]  
Main Hand[Bloodsurge, Kel'Thuzad's Blade of Agony]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Enchant Weapon - Black Magic]
Off Hand[Shadow Silk Spindle]  
Ranged[Corpse-Impaling Spike]
[Potent Ametrine]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
 
Summary (Rawr)
Spell Power:3,812
Hit Rating367 (16.99%)
Crit Rating:1,650.55 (69.94%)
Haste Rating:1,043 (42.55%)
  


Morthiras' Best Arcane SetTalents: 57/3/11DPS (Rawr): >= 14,981.91
SocketItemGemsEnchant
Head[Sanctified Bloodmage Hood]
[Chaotic Skyflare Diamond]
[Purified Dreadstone]
Bonus:+9 Spell Power
[Arcanum of Burning Mysteries]
Neck[Amulet of the Silent Eulogy]
[Reckless Ametrine]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
 
Shoulder[Sanctified Bloodmage Shoulderpads]
[Reckless Ametrine]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Greater Inscription of the Storm]
Back[Cloak of Burning Dusk]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Lightweave Embroidery]
Chest[Sanctified Bloodmage Robe]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
[Purified Dreadstone]
Bonus:+7 Spell Power
[Enchant Chest - Powerful Stats]
Wrist[Bracers of Fiery Night]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Enchant Bracers - Superior Spellpower]
Hands[San'layn Ritualist Gloves]
[Reckless Ametrine]
[Purified Dreadstone]
Bonus:+7 Spell Power
[Enchant Gloves - Exceptional Spellpower]
Waist[Crushing Coldwraith Belt]
[Purified Dreadstone]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
Bonus:+7 Spell Power
[Eternal Belt Buckle]
Legs[Sanctified Bloodmage Leggings]
[Purified Dreadstone]
[Reckless Ametrine]
Bonus:+7 Spell Power
[Sanctified Spellthread]
Feet[Plague Scientist's Boots]
[Purified Dreadstone]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
Bonus:+7 Spell Power
[Enchant Boots - Tuskarr's Vitality]
Finger[Ashen Band of Endless Destruction]
[Reckless Ametrine]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower]
Finger[Ring of Rapid Ascent]
[Purified Dreadstone]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Enchant Ring - Greater Spellpower]
Trinket[Charred Twilight Scale]  
Trinket[Dislodged Foreign Object]  
Main Hand[Bloodsurge, Kel'Thuzad's Blade of Agony]
[Runed Cardinal Ruby]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
[Enchant Weapon - Black Magic]
Off Hand[Shadow Silk Spindle]  
Ranged[Corpse-Impaling Spike]
[Reckless Ametrine]
Bonus:+5 Spell Power
 
Summary (Rawr)
Spell Power:4,160
Hit Rating217 (14.27%)
Crit Rating:1,316.5 (67.37%)
Haste Rating:1,493 (66.84%)
  


I'll update this post when new items are discovered or if Rawr starts to tell me something entirely different...

Last edited by Morthiras : 06/24/10 at 5:24 PM.

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Old 06/24/10, 3:28 PM   #931
Beasterbrown
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Gnome Mage
 
Anvilmar
For Alliance, BiS fire, this changes: Amulet of the Silent Eulogy and Sanctified Bloodmage Robe in their respective slots. While still using 3 veiled Ametrine, switch Tuskar's to Icewalker for the last 12 hit.

If you wanted to keep Tuskarr's then just switch two veiled ametrines to potents and keep the same gear as the horde BiS list above.

Last edited by Beasterbrown : 06/25/10 at 9:23 AM.

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Old 06/24/10, 4:32 PM   #932
Morthiras
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Originally Posted by Beasterbrown View Post
For Alliance, BiS fire, this changes: Amulet of the Silent Eulogy and Sanctified Bloodmage Robe in their respective slots. While still using 3 veiled Ametrine, switch Tuskar's to Icewalker for the last 12 hit.

If you wanted to keep Tuskarr's then just switch two veiled ametrines to potents and keep the same gear.
Thanks for additionally mentioning the differences for Alliance mages. I forgot to mention that I considered my own undead Horde mage only.
Originally Posted by Beasterbrown View Post
Also, its not a big deal, but you have a bracer enchant on the gloves.
Fixed that. Thanks.

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Old 07/09/10, 5:43 PM   #933
Maje
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Gnome Mage
 
Naxxramas (EU)
I've done some analysis on [Charred Twilight Scale], a semi-full ICC clear, around 140 procs for the trinket.

The minimum duration between procs was 50 seconds;
The average duration between procs on boss fights was 53.3seconds for a fire mage.

The data fits a model of 50s ICD and 30% proc chance on spellcast and makes the average uptime for a fight to be 28%.

EDIT: found a few more logs on WoL, I'm quite certain now that the ICD is infact 50s; for affliction warlock the average time to proc it seems to be around 55.6s.

EDIT2: yet another from shadow priest, 50s ICD 53seconds average time between procs;

Last edited by Maje : 07/10/10 at 8:20 AM.

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