According to the MMO-Champion spell comparison Imp. CS is supposed to reduce the cooldown by 3 seconds, basically removing the CS cooldown. I think that actually makes sense to have CS as a filler without a cooldown generating holy power for other abilities. Zealotry would then allow a burn rotation of CS>TV>repeat.

No point using HoW during zealotry, CS -> TV -> CS -> TV repeat until it is down, no other ability is even close. I am seeing ~18k crits during AW, HoW tops out at ~7-8k.

CS has a 3 second CD talented now, which is extremely nice for getting more of a rotation down, since it lines up with the GCD.

TV ist not going to have any cooldown afaik. So you can cast it (or DS) after each CS under Zealotry(whichs cooldown is a placeholder or mistake obv.)

Didn't blizzard want us to choose between different cool stuff? To spec max dps 5, 3, 33 there is not any utility we can pick at all. No Eye for an Eye, Rebuke, Repentance, or Pursuit of Justice. And all that having already cut Sanctified Retribution(3 points for a support other classes will bring to raids).
I'would miss Pursuit of Justice badly.

Also we seem very GCD locked, even more than now in my op. Didn't they say, that they dont think to be GCD locked is a good thing, and gave us that new ressource because of that?


No (self) heal anymore? I current endgame content I used instant flash of light a lot! But 3 spending Points of Holy Power for word of glory? We would loose a full TV/DS. We are not goint to see many words of Glory unsless someone is sure he will die unless.

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Rebuke: Retribution Paladin Talent HotC is gone, and JotW is 1 talent point. I'm looking at this build WoW Talent Calculator - Sigrie. While repentance has a cooldown someone else can CC and someone else can bring the 3% raid damage buff imo.

Zealotry seems awesome provided the cooldown is sane. In the 30 seconds we do 3700% of weapon damage from CS and TV alone. Add on another 15% per swing from Seals of Retribution and a 3s swing timer (for simplicity) gives 5150% of WD. Inquisition would drop off no later than 20-21s into Zealotry. If you buff Inquisition part way through, it drops to 4910% but considering the 30% to holy damage (provided Seals of Retribution is holy damage) put it at 5040.5%. Not refreshing Inquisition while Zealotry will yeald between 5150% and 5250% (Depending on how much time was left on Zealotry). Poping wings during this time will yield around 5900% WD.

I'm still not 100% sold on Inquisition. The problem is that between a reduced CD on CS, a reduction in seal damage in Seals of Retribution, TV being physical and the removal of consecration from our rotation, we're going to do a lot less holy damage than we do now. Zealotry just pushes this further. Maybe once righteous vengeance and seal of corruption dot ticks are added to the Zealotry consideration, then it might be worth keeping up, however, those sources of damage have to be doing about 8 weapon swings worth of damage during the time where the buff isn't up to be worth the opportunity cost of refreshing Inquisition during Zealotry. Maybe the penalty on the 10s of damage after Zealotry is over is enough to make up the difference or maybe spending 1 CS after zealotry is over to get the buff back is worth it.

In the current build autoattacks also have a chance of generating Holy Power. If intentional, it does break up the monotony of [Crusader Strike -> Filler]x2 -> Crusader Strike -> Templars Verdict by allowing a wasted chance on Verdict. Another paladin I was hitting at the dummy with tried only melee as holy and also got the free Holy Powers.

Ret if Sanct Ret is 1pt- 5/3/33 Since both Heart of the Crusader is gone, and Judgement of the wise is supposed to be integrated into the spec with Replenishment being 1 point somewhere this is what I would go for. Sanctfied Retribution is only 1 point on live so I would assume it is only 1 point in Cata as well. This would give access to rebuke and PoJ which are both very nice for utility purposes while maximizing dps.

edit: Changed tree to reflect the need to add minor speed/stat boot enchant + 2 points in sanctified light for increased judgement crit. The judgement crit outweighs the ap to boots/ hit-crit enchant from cata.

Another part to consider is eye for an eye works from any damage dealt to you, so it could be good for certain fights.

Unless the seal behavior of Judgements of the Just is altered, one point in it (and two fillers on the first tier) is going to provide more DPS than any spec that invests in Judgments of the Pure. This is even more true now that the CD of Judgement has been lowered by an additional second. Although two points in Judgements of the Pure may be more DPS than two points in Sanctified Light depending on the increased valuation of haste given that it can increase the rate of Holy Power gain through white hits as of the current patch.

According to Wowhead's talent calc, Avenger's Shield is the spell granted for specializing in protection at lvl 10.

Avenger's Shield is the ability gained at level 10 for spending the first talent point in the protection tree.

Edit: Too slow.

So list of current errors in the Ret tree

Templar's Verdict is a talent, while it is also listed as the level 10 ability. Assumption can be made that the talent will become DS.

Heart of the Crusader is still in the tree, although it was supposedly scraped. Unknown as to what may happen with it.

Judgements of the Wise is still in the tree, redundant with Divine Purpose. Probable location of future Replenishment Talent.

Sanctified Retribution still working incorrectly. Judging by Dev comments, should be a 2pt talent yielding buffs listed at all 3 stages of talenting in the current build.

Wrath of the Lightbringer reduces cooldown of Avenging Wrath by .5/1 sec. Probable that it is supposed to reduce CD by .5/1 min.

Improved Crusader Strike reduces cooldown of Crusader Strike by 0/0 sec. Supposedly should read .5/1 sec.

(hopefully an error) Zealtory has a 30 min cooldown. I would expect a CD that would allow it's use each boss fight, however use in arena would have to be considered. Possible that the CD is longer to disallow arena use, and then shortened to a PvE usable CD.

Edit: Provide Relevant Information

Played on the beta this morning. Rotation, if you want to call it that, is a bit more complex now and I dare say alot more fun.

Best part is Rebuke, which right now has the kick animation attached to it. I find it very satisfying to kick mobs for no apparent reason. No way this is going live, but it is great for now.

Still some weird inconsistencies, but I imagine the next build will clean alot of those up.