You would see a DPS increase by closing the gap instead of hardcasting exorcism. Instead of standing still and waiting for him to run 40 yards to get into melee range you should judgement sprint and meet him in the middle, let's just say at 20 yards for the sake of argument, effectively halving your wait time to start really DPSing.

Same goes for Domo, but really you should talk your guild into pulling from the bottom of the stairs.

The buffs to Might and Abominations' Might etc, were supposed to be 20% attack power while doing 10% ranged attack power.

Unless they've botched that.

I had not noticed the change in tooltip (initial datamining just showed the text 10% changed to 20%, and the blue comment that this was the melee buff for the patch didn't mention ranged AP or Hunters), however PTR tooltip (per Wowhead) shows specific text differentiating AP by 20% and ranged AP by 10%, and the spell details match this, too. Looks like it's properly implemented for the split.

There was a blue post recently stating that were releasing the latest PTR notes later today-- We should wait for this to happen to see what version they will provide us.

Latest blue notes -

- Blessing of Might now increases melee attack power by 20% and ranged attack power by 10%.
- Seal of Truth's Judgement now deals an additional 20% damage for each application of Censure on the target.
- Two-Handed Weapon Specialization now increases damage done with 2H Weapons by 25%, up from 20%.
- Sanctified Wrath now increases critical strike chance of Hammer of Wrath by 2/4/6%, down from 20/40/60%.

Source: MMO-Champion

Unless it is some kind of a horrible typo, this new change, I assume, would completely negate the benefits of separating AW and Zealotry even during BL/Heroism.

Also,

Does this mean that our judgements would deal an extra 100%(20x5) damage at max stack of censure on a given target?

My initial math shows that, coupled with 5% boost to our 2-handed wep. specialization passive ability, these changes(if what I read on Judgements are correct) would net about +3% in our overall performance figures, not counting AP bonus changes, if they went live today.

Can anyone confirm this?

"Seal of Truth, when Judged, now benefits from a multiplier of 20% per stack of Censure, up from 10%."

source

We might need to consider using the judgement prime glyph with this change as well. It's value should increase by roughly 33%.

With the change, and Judgment glyph, the rotation returns to stacking and using as much HoPo as possible. It was pretty close before, but rolling AoW Exo damage with the glyph pulled ahead as the fight went on, before the Judgment changes. Now, we're looking at;

Inq> 3 HoPo TV > CS > J > DP TV > AoW Exo > HoW > HW > Cons,

with the HoW nerf that seems to be coming up. This also brought haste up a bit again, as going CS > J > CS > TV > CS > Filler > CS > J > TV > CS > Filler > CS (up to this point you can start eating .5 sec delays before rejudging and TV, or add an additional filler and continue your rotation)...... becomes possibly obtainable, although to be certain I'll need to see what our gear looks like in the upcoming tier. The current 2 filler mastery build looks to be on par with a haste soft cap build, and going that way you'd be looking at the current CS rules in regards to J, where you have two priority orders.

Haste order: Rotations don't split until the 16.5 mark, CS(0), J (1.5), CS(3), Inq (4.5), CS (6), Filler (7.5), CS (9), J (10.5), TV (12), CS (13.5), Filler (15), CS (16.5)

----------------Time(sec)------------------ ---Time(sec)
Command: --.5 J Delay ---Command: ---Additional Filler
CS-------------16.5------------CS-------------16.5
J---------------18.5------------<filler>--------18
TV-------------20---------------J--------------19.5
CS-------------21.5------------TV-------------21
<filler>--------23--------------CS-------------22.5
CS-------------24.5------------<filler>--------24
J---------------26.5-------------CS------------25.5
TV-------------28---------------<filler>--------27
CS-------------29.5-------------CS-------------28.5
<filler>--------31---------------TV-------------30
CS-------------32.5-------------CS-------------31.5
----------------------------------J---------------33
J---------------34.5-------------CS-------------34.5
Inq------------36---------------Inq-------------36

Just at a glance, it appears that if you have a filler of HoW or better, use that, if not, delay for J. I'll need more data to be sure though. You sacrifice 1 ability every 3 J delays, although pushing back TV's farther and farther in the rotation doesn't seem optimal either. I'm thinking the middle ground is where we want to be.


Mastery rotation:
At 3 HoPo;
Inq > TV > DP TV > AoW Exo > HoW

Under 3 HoPo;

CS > J > DP TV > AoW Exo > HoW > HW > Cons

It's basically the same we currently have, only with J moving far up to lie behind CS in prioirity while ramping, and at 3 HoPo we're trying to get rid of it as quickly as possible to start ramping again. The interesting thing is without the additional crit chance of HoW, it drops considerably. The difference between the two builds seems to revolve around how many procs you're wasting, the mastery build having more openings to use more procs, but more punishing if you're "unlucky". The haste is very stringent and leaves no room for extra procs, which does even out our DPS to a bit less distance between high and lows, but without some actual numbers to look at, I'd recommend staying with a mastery build until haste can be fully mapped out. It really depends on how easily we can reach the haste soft cap.

Well, forget all that I said about using CDs separately... With the HoW nerf there's no doubt that stacking them is the best thing to do.

Shannox's cleave is brutal. I'd rather wait a second for him to settle, and fire off an exo, than risk dying.

Baleroc's positioning is too important to risk screwing up, at least for us. Attacking before the tank is in melee range is risking a problem you don't need to worry about.

We pull domo to a specific spot with MDs. If all melee followed your example and ran out of the group to start dps 1 second early, you'd risk him transforming. I'll never purposely sacrifice proper play for a slight dps increase.

You can stand in melee range of Ragnaros before the pull. Anything you can do before the pull is free damage.