Correct. 5k dps loss is at 90. Haven't run the 85s again. I'm using mastery > haste > crit reforged/enchanted BiS 90 gear including the legendary gem and heroic elite gear. So, SW>HA>DP for 90 post that bug fix. 3k separations between talents.

I'm also reasonably confident in the numbers for each ability - if there are other bugs they are probably in things like that DP bug that affect number of abilities or duration of things or refreshing of buffs rather than the actual damage of each ability.

Edit: At 85 with H>M>C reforged/enchanted BiS gear it's a 2k dps loss, resulting in HA > SW=DP. 1k difference between HA and SW/DP.

Here are the results:
Free Cloud Storage - MediaFire (90 T14H BiS)
Free Cloud Storage - MediaFire (85 T13H BiS)

Just download the htmls, don't try to view in mediafire.

SimC is also fully updated with all the stuff I've found recently so feel free to build the SVN version of it and mess around with profiles as well. The Divine Purpose bugfix just missed the last precompiled release build sadly.

CS base additive damage : 712.5
TV base additive damage : 1557.1
Judgment base damage : 562.1
Exo base damage: 5929.65 - 6619.87
Hammer base damage: 1574.6 - 1740.4

from spell_query

GCD reduction implemented. I do also have what I call Delay (latency or human response time) - any time you're unable to pre-queue (cast during the previous ability) and have even a small window of free GCD it will add the delay before your next ability triggers. This happens fairly often.

There were a reasonable number of occurrences where you have 0.1 to 1.4-ish seconds free. My counter only looked for a full contiguous 1.5 seconds free, so it's not absolutely true (due to most of our GCD being sub-1.5). It's entirely possible overall there is 7-8% wait time free, but not as entire GCD. (Just reforged to Exp cap, losing a fair bit of Haste, and suddenly I'm at 11 free GCD and 10.8% overall free time - I think Haste was indeed the culprit).

Human... with an axe. Therefore neutral. But, as I said, not presently reforged to Exp cap, so that could skew things on any race.

I logged on Beta last night and determined I'm undervaluing SoT. The live tooltip has always been crazy (example: it's actually 0.223 SP divided by 5 per stack, so only 0.223 at full 5 stack). The new tooltip has a full 47% (5 * 9.4%) per stack. I didn't get to actually test the damage (when I went back later servers were down), but I've updated my modeling. Huge jump in DPS (goes from below live to above live, huzzah!).

I've no doubt further refining will iron out other bugs and provide more reasonable answers. On a 450 second fight I still get DP first, then a 1.2k loss to SW, and a 3k further loss to HA. I'll be double-checking my setup over the next day or two.

I reverse engineered the base values I needed from a L85 premade. CS matches my reverse engineering, but none of the others. TV was 565, Judge I pulled from WowHead at 515 (but that could be wrong) so I didn't reverse engineer, Exo came to average 6434, and HoW average 1847 (I didn't look for the average values setting, so didn't get the range itself). BTW - I trust your values more, as my Exo and HoW are higher than the average at L90, which makes no sense.

These values were determined by taking naked-me, recording tooltips. Threw on one piece of gear, recorded change in AP/SP. Confirm AP/SP scaling (they match the OP) based on this change. Take naked value and subtract out scaling from naked AP and naked SP.

What interested me was that throwing in a (2H) weapon did not change any tooltips. I figured at least Judge would update with SoL, but I guess they didn't put everything into the tooltip (I trust the real damage is impacted, - again, by the time I went back to check by whacking mobs the servers were down).

P.S. Those old Immediate Truth napkin math? Those were calculated with Censure at about 1/5th what I now believe it ought to be. So.... yeah.

Thanks for all your hard work, Exemplar. Does this mean that Immediate Truth might not be as much of a horrible DPS loss as you had previously calculated out? (I still have to assume that it's a DPS loss for raid boss-style fights, due to the inherent nature of DoT scaling)

SoL doesn't show up in the tooltip of Judgment. The base values for CS and TV are the spell base numbers from the query, multiplied by the weap dmg multiplier. (Note, doing the same thing for 90 matches the numbers you have in the OP).

Censure at 85 on beta is (96.77 + 9.4%sp) per stack. Checked both in game and in spell_query. It would be nice if it was 5 times that strong, but it isn't.

Do you have the new T13 set bonuses implemented yet? 15% extra CS and 20% extra TV? Also, does your spreadsheet include full raid buffs/bloodlust/potions?

I've got SoL on Judge based on your previous advisement, thanks. Just annoying that the tooltip doesn't update. Seal proc gets SoL, right? I'm assuming that since it involves weapon damage.

Sorry, I think I mis-typedabout Censure. I meant what you just said.

I originally had 1.88% per stack. Multiplied by 5 this gave 9.4%. The live version's tooltip is, as I've said, awful. It is 1/5th of what it implies when reading the raw tooltip in, say, Wowhead (though how it displays in the client is accurate). What we actually have is 9.4% per stack, so a total of 47%. The way I stated was 47% * 5, or 235%, which is flat wrong. Truth is 9.4% * 5 = 47%.

My Immediate Truth calcs used 1.88% per stack, so they drastically undervalued Censure and the ticks still won by a mile. My spreadsheet also used that yesterday. Correction boosted passive damage by a fair margin.

I have incorporated the new T13 bonuses, and my gearset does use the 4 piece. I've recently axed the relic slot and corrected reforging. Believe it or not, my spreadsheet's cheap mockery of a reforge routine for this gear produces a tiny bit more DPS than wowreforge.com by leaving me 2 rating under Exp cap). Regardless, I'm actually running a full Hit and Exp cap setup.

I've chopped down buffs/debuffs to the 5.0.4 list, and I am assuming all are active (well, except TotT - not going to assume a Rogue throwing that on us). Only gaining SP from AP/2, no other source. I currently have Heroism turned off - my spreadsheet just models it as an average, so Bonus * 40 sec/length. As such I often leave it off to get more accurate results. GoIT, GoInq, GoMassExo all modeled but turned off (sucks, sucks, and using a single target fight).

I'm confident of how damage is being calculated on every ability. Base, coefficients, buffs, and debuffs should all be present. I need to spend more time double-checking the simulation and when it decides to use abilities or CDs. With DP selected I'm currently getting 3 free complete-GCD, and 8.4% free time (those 3 GCD and a lot of fractional ones). 7-8 and 10-11% with the other talents.

I actually get an optimum priority of Inq > 5HP TV > CS > J > Exo > HoW, don't use 3HP TV. My routine to test all the possibilities is functioning and I was able to run a comparison. It's about 600 DPS better than what I have in OP (5HP TV > Exo > HoW > CS > Judge > 3-4HP TV). Interested to see what Simcraft says if you try juggling around the order.

Reminder, this is one specific set of gear: DP at 52405, SW at 50880, HA at 48886. For reference, my gear on live models at 41542. So the normal next-Xpac-patch DPS jump appears to occur (unless I have a really foul issue in my modeling).

I'm going to review my simulation calculation far more in depth over the next few days. It's possible that holds flaws which would propagate into invalid DPS values.

Edit: Finding flaws! 'Hammer of rath' failing to add HP because of a typo. HA not tripling HP from generators, only granting the bonus damage to them Those alone will alter results.

Those numbers are much higher than what I'm getting from SimC, especially without Bloodlust. I have 46k HA, 45k DP/SW, vs. 49k from live SimC.

Are you using ESS or Gurth?

Also, that priority doesn't make sense. Why prioritize Exo above Hammer when Hammer hits harder and has a shorter cooldown?

That priority is a 1-2k dps drop from Inq > TV 5/DP/3HA > HoW > Exo > CS > Judge > TV3 for me in SimC

How close to full BiS gear are you using? Can you post the #s for each ability according to your spreadsheet?

Edit: Stats for my profile raid buffed
strength = 8320
ap = 18772
sp = 9385
crit = 16.38% (pre inquisition)
haste = 12.28% (23.50% attack speed)
mastery = 48.47%
hit = 7.53% (771 rating)
exp = 7.52% (770 rating)

They did change the rating conversions for hit/exp at 85. The cap is now 768-769 hit or exp.

Call me crazy, Exemplar, but are you changing the priority for when Holy Avenger is active? You'd think that HoW and Exo would get a greater benefit from the 30% increased damage.

To add to Balhale's post, any character with an Expertise racial drops the required rating down to 666, a fitting number for the Paladin class.

I, too, am a little curious as to why Exo seems to have been placed above HoW in priority during HA, since HoW now benefits from Mastery. An extra 30% on HoW would mean a bigger mastery hit, yes?

I will test it. That would be nice if so. Did you see if haste affects Inq/DS also?

Edit: Confirmed. TV/DS GCD is reduced by melee haste.