Ronark, I'm uncomfortable dropping your 1344. Where X (targets) is 10, 1344 is still nearly a 10% change in your total! So I'm just snagging Hulabaloon's numbers, and creating a table for various values of X.

DP

X is the number of targets. The other two columns are total % Weapon Damage.

Targets (X)	SoJ	SoR
1	2912	1416
2	4000	2832
3	5088	4248
4	6176	5664
5	7264	7080
6	8352	8496
7	9440	9912
8	10528	11328
9	11616	12744
10	12704	14160

No DP

Targets (X)	SoJ	SoR
1	2928	1350
2	4032	2700
3	5136	4050
4	6240	5400
5	7344	6750
6	8448	8100
7	9552	9450
8	10656	10800
9	11760	12150
10	12864	13500

With DP SoJ wins up to 5 targets, without DP it wins up to 6 targets. After that, SoR appears to pull ahead.

However, previously crunching SoT with Censure on a single target (my original comparison was strict SoT single-target vs SoR AOE), it took 6 targets for SoR to win. So to my napkin math, it looks like the territory where SoJ beats SoR mostly falls under the territory where SoT would beat both (even more so if you juggle Censure on 2+ targets). No DP looks like 1-4 targets, SoT, 6 targets SoJ, 7+ SoR. Odds are the GCDs for seal swap between SoJ and SoT would eat any gain you had on target 6, but you might possibly eke a smidge.

At some point since Ronark posted his findings on Blizz's official forums, SoJ no longer hits multiple targets through HotR and neither does SoI. A very brief run against the two non-raid dummies at Shrine of Seven Stars consisting of 7 white hits and 6 uses of HotR (18 total HotR hits) yielded 13 SoJ hits.

Why????

/10char

Why? 'Cause GC's in charge and his philosophy on Paladins is, "To the ground, baby!"

Seriously, though, it seems like a really undeserved nerf - especially hotfixed in a single day like this. It is possible it was due to Prot's use of Insight coupled with Battle Healer to make healers useless, but I seriously doubt that's the case considering it all worked just fine as of this morning.

Is it confirmed that SoI now doesn't proc when AOE tanking like it used to? That's quite a big change, since it may require a re-think as to whether Glyph of Battle Healer is worthwhile.

Battle Healer only Needs SoI to be active, it doesn't matter if it procs or not.
Right now Battle Healer still procs from HotR-AoE, though I doubt that this is intended.

But well, that's nothing Ret Needs to worry about.

Honestly HotR AOE-proc of seals was likely a bug and they were right to fix it. Other abilities did not function in this fashion (reference DS) and Blizzard seems to intend for SoR to be the sole AOE seal (even though it's incredibly weak and requires 6(!) targets to be viable). While their timing on such a hotfix is amusing, it's unlikely in this instance to be due to this thread. Let's be honest, their turnaround time just isn't that fast.

No great shakes for Ret, Wind Lord is probably the only boss where there would have been sufficient targets for this to have been of any advantage.

I had a question about Execution Sentence and Inquisition. As our only real DOT, does ES use the buffs at the moment it was cast (Inquisition, trinket procs, etc), or does it alter its DPS as those buffs change during its course?

On cast.

As an additional note to that, you can cast ES on Tsulong while you have the healing buff from his day-phase breath and it does absurd amounts of healing for 1 cast. With 4 pallys doing that we ended up with that one spell accounting for 7.4% of the healing done to him on our latest kill.

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Just wondering what everyone else thought about this sort of thing. Basically the site talks about why it might be sub-optimal to get the hit cap (And maybe the exp cap by the same argument.)

For the record I do not necessarily support this idea of not aiming for hit/exp cap, But I am going back and forth with reasons for and against it.