Originally Posted by zeidrich
You can be crushed as well, which hurts, but doesn't matter if you can't hold aggro.
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I am not crushable when I dont need to be crushable. Nobody has 1 set of gear. This is standard badge farm gear. Be
serious.
Originally Posted by zeidrich
Start actually gearing like a paladin, stop focusing so much on the warrior-centric offset gear
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"Offset gear" What are you talking about?
The advice is cute, but I dont suffer from a lack of spelldamage or I would get more spelldamage (glove enchant to start). Stacking avoidance, just means you generate less aggro from holy shield blocks. Yes you take less damage, but the mitigation + HP is what MTs ultimately rely on. Avoidance MTs are a losing strategy unless you cannot get better mitigation+hp gear in which case you last 3 minutes into Prince (or any other fight where mitigation > avoidance), get unlucky and just die in 1 second. The lucky pocketwatch is fine for avoidance but ultimately a crappy trinket (for non druids who oft rely on Oh Shit! trinkets). You get more avoidance from just defense stacking like an adamantite figurine. HP stacking is what paladins are forced to do from the time they turn 70. I'm surprised the thread doesn't focus more on it since blizzard even revamped the talents with 7 pts specifically giving us 16% more hp. That's how much it matters. It's not an HP hard-on, it's a necessity. A previous poster went so far as to mention kings is a crutch for not being geared, which is true when you're constantly told to wear the terrible paladin gear by people who dont understand you're tanking. I certainly don't fault level 69's for not having the libram, I'm not gonna fault tanks who start with Kings. Kings is a crutch, ultimately a crutch for other people's bad choices or you not being geared. In either case, it doesnt apply to a proper Prot Tank (uncrushable 13.5k hp).
While I've seen the gloves drop multiple times but never gotten to roll on the T4 helm (which I would take in a second), please explain why the T4 gloves are a good idea?
T4 Justicar Armor Gloves -
34 Sta
24 Int
27 spd
35 Bv
23 Def
Versus Felsteel Gloves -
27 sta
25 def
B socket
Y Socket
3 parry socket bonus
24 int is worth less than 1 consecrate (max level consecrate).
35 Bv is worthless as MT and OT
felsteel has better sta (socketing)
felsteel has better def
felsteel provides some minor avoidance
I lose 200-280 hp, some def and avoidance for 27 spd and some armor on 1 piece of gear. Terrible choice. If I needed more spd I can enchant for it or just grind out a rep weapon that has better SPD. Even some kara healing drops have more spd (just bad luck never seeing a heaven or shard i guess). Grinding out lower city rep will give me access to 25 more spd too, but it's not necessary for me. Your glove choices are 8 def (if yur undergeared trying for uncrittable), 10 sta if you need sta, 2% threat if you need threat. The felsteel is the best choice in almost any gear configuration. The felsteel helm as well (until I replaced it). The badge hat is good but I dont need anything else to tank all of kara, I rather save badges for 2.4
While a Paladin cannot effectively MT certain bosses, there's no downside to gearing for MT instead of some crappy tank hybrid. The goal is always to be able to fill a warrior's role as tank, you specced for it. You dont need to stack spelldamage if you're OTing, you dont need to stack avoidance unless you're OTing multiple, and by the time you're worried about OT avoidance, your gear is well past Kara and you can easily have run enough to pick up avoidance gear or have enough HP to be able to enchant/gem avoidance while having the traditional tanking gear still in your inventory. I carry 3 sets of equipment. 1 for dps (gorehowl etc), 1 for avoidance tanking, 1 for MT (mitigation + hp). Spelldamage isn't a factor in avoidance OTing so it's a simple enough task to pick up 2 of some of the same gear. I use Ogrila Aegis with dodge gems for avoidance and Shatar for tanking along with other gear suited for those roles. Buying avoidance gear from rep vendors and AH is something blizzard has made (probably) unintentionally easy.