I can see doing that if you want a 20/41/0 or some kind of hybrid holy/prot spec that allows you to heal better. That would be the case if you never, ever MT'ed and primarly just served as a trash tank who switches to heal on bosses. I can't advocate doing that for any other reason though, the 5% straight avoidance vs bosses is just too big.

This is actually quite viable, as the more dodge and parry you acquire the more block you push, providing you have a lot of block value... I often find myself eliminating a large scale of avoidance gear, and find myself at about 750 block value, and uncrushable without holy shield up, with that being the case, running anything Kara and below is significantly easier. Technically it's rougher on the healer, but in comparison to how boring it is to heal a full avoidance tank in kara, it actually balances out your threat to damage intake, as well as the healers boredom to doing something role.

Personally, I advise to any tank, always keep a nice set of shield block / block value gear on the side, because as you progress, the line of zones you pass (Kara to gruul, gruul to mag, mag to ssc, etc) will increase, so eventually you'll be digging out old gear to run SSC/TK after your overgeared in your sunwell loot. That may be slightly exaggerated, none the less, I do advise doing something similar as downgrading is quite common if you do anything more than raid progression.

P.S. Stacking shield block high enough to push uncrushable without holy shield also eliminates that ever painful "second gap" with holy shield, as it's no longer required. That being the case, I find tanking lower end raid instances substantially easier altogether.

Regardless of loosing out on a lot of TPS by not using HS, I'm pretty sure the gear to become passive crush immune as a paladin without major trade offs (gemming for dodge/defense, using Figurine of the Colossus, etc) does not exist.

I could not disagree with you more about avoidance-gear being easier to heal than a more block heavy set. If you mean technically they need to heal more often, or have to return more total HP to you that's one thing, but I can't recall the last time outside of extreme circumstances where steady incoming damage killed me. Bursts after avoidance kill me trivially three times as often, because the healers slack off more (this isn't their fault, it's hard to keep pre-loading heals and canceling them for extended periods, the temptation is to offheal). I avoid to save healer mana and these days healers are drowning in it.

I also disagree with the person who thought dropping deflection is a good idea. While I concede that steadier incoming damage is a great thing to have, there is enough nasty spike damage, and the Deflection value is actually more than 1% avoidance per point (considerably, since it is an increasing scale). So the general solution is to use a lot of block rating gear with decent amount of block value, removing parry/dodge from other pieces. This makes a hell of a drastic difference in the incoming damage curve, and has the only downside of something like HSH not taking near enough damage to maintain threat.

Mind logging out in that gear set? I'd really be interested in seeing it.

Is there a way to put something in that script to factor in redoubt? Or is it already figured in and im missing something?

Thanks

When Redoubt procs GetBlockChance() will get the value including the 30%

I think adding 30% would be quite a good idea.

Just adding a straight 30% to the result should give you an accurate result.

I'm not particularly sure if this would work as a modification of the script, but:

/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Need 102.4 combined avoidance. Currently at:",0.8,0.8,1)
/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(GetDodgeChance()+GetBlockChance()+30+GetParryChance()+5+(G etCombatRating(CR_DEFENSE_SKILL)*150/355 + 20)*0.04,1,0.5,0)

May I ask why you want to factor this in? Redoubt is notoriously unreliable - it only procs on damaging attacks (meaning pure avoidance can cripple the proc rate, like Reckoning), does not benefit from the Holy Shield libram, does not generate extra threat, and will generally never go off when you most need it.

Would you be so kind to log out in that set tonight? I'd be very interested to see it.

I generally don't find myself online until about raiding time, but I will be more than happy to after were done for the night. So be sure to armory me tomorrow morning, or late tonight.