Retribution DPS Theorycraft - Page 150

Rasputin · 02/15/08, 7:37 PM

I included the helm enchant already.

I'm unsure about Madness. The spreadsheet places it decently below both DST, and therefore also the Shard of Contempt. I'd have to imagine that would be a greater dps loss than the ring.

Another possibility would be to socket 1 [Rigid Lionseye] and 2 [Etched Fire Opal] to reach exactly 18 hit.

masume · 02/15/08, 8:42 PM

Armory was just upgraded in PTR

Apparently tokens for various tiers of gear (t4,t5) can be exchanged for the equivalent in pvp

Screenshots will be uploaded when properly cropped

Buliwyf · 02/15/08, 8:59 PM

looking to get hold of the latest spreadsheet. anyone got a link? i tried the one a few pages back but it seems dead

Rasputin · 02/15/08, 9:01 PM

Originally Posted by masume

Armory was just upgraded in PTR

Apparently tokens for various tiers of gear (t4,t5) can be exchanged for the equivalent in pvp

Screenshots will be uploaded when properly cropped

Does this extend to T6/S3?

flyingtoastr · 02/15/08, 9:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Does this extend to T6/S3?

Tier 6 tokens can be turned in for Season 2 right now (might be a bug, I would think they would go into season 3) and the new tokens from SWP (Boots Belt, Bracers) can be turned in for Season 3 honor pieces.

xenozenith · 02/15/08, 10:21 PM

New comer here...i would like to ask about what is the dps cycle for a ret pally. I know theres a chart at the 1st page, but i have difficulty understanding >.<

Can some one state down what the DPS cycle is like? i.e when to Judge, when to CS so as to avoid getting stuck on GCD...Sorry for asking but im a noob

Xaoc · 02/15/08, 11:06 PM

First page has all the details

Shalymar · 02/16/08, 12:33 AM

Am I missing something here. The new Justicar Helm in 2.4 is less dps than the old Justicar Crown according to the dps spreadsheet?

Tonyk · 02/16/08, 12:42 AM

Well, Rasputin, it might be lower dps, but that 20 hit rating is needed, and if you get it on the trinket you have more room on other pieces of gear for more Strength/haste/crit.

New PTR build has some interesting items. [Signet of Primal Wrath] is considered the best ring for a Ret Paladin according to maxdps, and the new gear from the sunwell shows a ring with the same stats but 1 more agility: Sunwell Badge Loot - Melee Ring - Items - World of Warcraft

I guess using both these rings would result in the highest dps you can get?

[The Blade of Harbingers] (The Blade of Harbingers - Items - World of Warcraft) looks nice. I wonder how it stacks up to [Cataclysm's Edge].

Zraknul · 02/16/08, 12:55 AM

Since there seems to be an assortment of comments on this thread of what skills armor penetration actually effects:

White damage and what?

SoB to my understanding is considered magic (holy) damage, and the same with crusader strike; they don't scale with plus damage as they're only based off your "tool tip" weapon damage?

Obviously JoB, exorcism and consecration are all spell damage.

Please correct where if I'm mistaken somewhere.

Locazo · 02/16/08, 1:04 AM

Originally Posted by Zraknul

Since there seems to be an assortment of comments on this thread of what skills armor penetration actually effects:

White damage and what?

SoB to my understanding is considered magic (holy) damage, and the same with crusader strike; they don't scale with plus damage as they're only based off your "tool tip" weapon damage?

Obviously JoB, exorcism and consecration are all spell damage.

Please correct where if I'm mistaken somewhere.

Crusader strike is physical damage. Armor pen works on our white damage and CS, which is the majority of our damage.

Rasputin · 02/16/08, 1:29 AM

Originally Posted by Tonyk

Well, Rasputin, it might be lower dps, but that 20 hit rating is needed, and if you get it on the trinket you have more room on other pieces of gear for more Strength/haste/crit.

New PTR build has some interesting items. [Signet of Primal Wrath] is considered the best ring for a Ret Paladin according to maxdps, and the new gear from the sunwell shows a ring with the same stats but 1 more agility: Sunwell Badge Loot - Melee Ring - Items - World of Warcraft

I guess using both these rings would result in the highest dps you can get?

[The Blade of Harbingers] (The Blade of Harbingers - Items - World of Warcraft) looks nice. I wonder how it stacks up to [Cataclysm's Edge].

Yeah, I only meant it was a greater DPS loss than using the [Band of the Ranger-General]. I think at this point, with new gear being discovered frequently, I'll shelve this discussion until the PTR seems a bit more finalized.

Ragnor · 02/16/08, 2:04 AM

Originally Posted by Rasputin

So, looking over the available loot known from Sunwell, I've been trying to figure out the best way to get to 95 hit rating. So far I have, from gear;

Considered Surefooted enchant on your boots instead of 12 agi?

flyingtoastr · 02/16/08, 2:05 AM

So our choices for new 2 handed weapons for SWP...

A 3.5 speed Axe itemized for hunters, and a 3.5 speed sword itemized for Hunters. Anyone else a little disturbed by this? Where is the big slow mace?

Rasputin · 02/16/08, 2:10 AM

Originally Posted by flyingtoastr

So our choices for new 2 handed weapons for SWP...

A 3.5 speed Axe itemized for hunters, and a 3.5 speed sword itemized for Hunters. Anyone else a little disturbed by this? Where is the big slow mace?

While this isn't quite the issue for me personally, I agree that it is a problem. But just to make sure, is Apolyon at least an upgrade to Torch for Alliance?