There was a brief discussion last night about whether or not the Elixir of Demonslaying worked on Brutallus. I missed the previous day's attempt on him and some of the melee were claiming that Demonslaying didn't seem to have any effect, so I didn't question it and popped Relentless Assault instead. Can someone confirm or deny that Demonslaying does indeed work Brutallus?

After a heartbreaking number of 3%-1% wipes (people got disconnected or crashed on literally every attempt), I'd be annoyed if Demonslaying did indeed work and we could have eeked out that last bit of damage to kill him.

I also get shafted most of the time and placed in the tank group, even on Brutallus. I'm pushing 1100-1200 dps when I could be doing 1500+ by booting the third rogue :/

This could be easily answered if you went and used the tools that have been listed dozens of times in this thread. "Do it for me" doesn't promote learning like putting your stats into a spreadsheet or Rawr and actually seeing the difference.

The attack power difference between the two buffs is going to produce a small enough difference that it is unlikely to be noticeable via watching on-screen numbers, especially for Dual wielding characters which see a smaller raw value increase / point of AP vs 2h classes.

I would see no reason that [Recipe: Elixir of Demonslaying] wouldn't work on him, but IMO it would take some parsing to be sure. Naked eye evaluations of small differences are unreliable.

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Here is mine from a Brut Kill last night

enjoy!

Your buffs count 6 heroisms O_o, either WWS is off or I'm missing something.

I see you're using 5 shammies, how many heroisms of those did the melee group get?

Consecration has been suffering the downranking penalty ever since 2.2

Rank 1 is used because it gives you the best damage:mana return, especially Ret Paladins generally have very little spell damage nowadays, if at all.

Also, the first tick of Consecration can proc the Judgement of Wisdom mana return, and the cheaper the Consecration you use, the better the offset on the mana cost.

I got no shaman heroism, its probly the shard proc.

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Blizzard is getting far too lazy with names. First the double Light's Grace from the libram, now this.

I lack the words to describe how retarded this is. Honestly did they even spend more than 10 seconds thinking of the consequences of that name?

Yea besides one good drop of the tanking trinket, the Priestess has only been dropping the lame spelldamage and healer trinket time after time for us, so I haven't really been able to test it first hand.



What I've always been interested to figure out is exactly this: A pure mathematical breakdown between using Consecration max rank and chaining mana pots vs. only using Consecration rank 1 and chaining haste pots.

Personally I've always gone the Consecration route, especially considering I used to have ~260 spelldamage on my T6, though this is nullified now.

According to Bellator's spreadsheet (where'd you go mate, show yourself! ), using max rank consecration and no haste pots is superior with both SoC or SoB, even in the best melee promoting sunwell gear.

Obviously there are a bit too many uncontrolled variables, like using Haste Potion during Avenging Wrath and/or AP trinket/heroism as well as weaving in max rank during those effects vs. whether mana pot spam actually truly allows spamming max rank or if you have to stop occasionally in some fights vs. upranking slightly (using rank 2 for example) when using haste pots.

Getting the new Assassin's Alchemist stone should really trivialize mana issues, though then again there's a slight difference between using that and other trinkets.

Still, it seems the main evidence supports using mana pots and max rank consecration over haste pots, I wonder why you use haste pots, or if there's an underlying math behind it?

Things like this are annoying because it doesn't take much effort to avoid it. Both haste potions and DST give the buff 'Haste' which became a headache for me when I was trying to measure the haste potion usage in my raid.

And regarding Shard of Contempt - yeah it can be frustrating to keep running the heroic as Ret, depending on the group composition, but now at least everyone is guaranteed to get the best-in-slot trinket in 1-2 weeks. DST and Tsunami never dropped for me and it was getting embarrassing doing Illidan with hourglass

You're going to get closer to 9,600 mana back from Fel Mana Potions, which allows you to around 19 max rank Consecrations instead of rank 1. Assuming each tick is, on average, 125 damage (and rank1 is 30), that's about a 14,583 damage increase. Over a 6 minute fight, that's about 41DPS

For Haste potions, it's a 12.5% uptime increasing ~50% of your damage by 25.38%. So, assuming before any of this you pull 1600DPS, 50% of that is 800. A 25.38% increase to that is 203DPS. Since it's only a 12.5% uptime on the Haste, it's about a 25DPS increase.
Of course, if you're Horde the Haste potions increase around 75% of your damage, which ends up being closer to 45DPS.

According to my vicodin-influenced napkin math, if you're an Alliance Paladin you'd get more out of Consecration, and if you're Horde you get more from Haste potions.