Enhance and Ret will get battle shout anyway, if you run with 2 warriors. So they can get wisdom instead of Might if running with 2 paladins.

This one belongs to simple questions thread, link here:
Paladin: Simple Questions/Simple Answers

The answer is - you can start easier heroics pretty much as soon as you ding 80 (assuming you took healer quest blues from icecrown or peak quests. To reliably heal Loken you want to be in full 80 blues. That's ~1400sp and ~16k unbutfed mana.

Can someone calculate how long we can last with lets say... 50% crit 500 haste etc?

Rawr will tell you how much healing you can do in a given fight with your gear and raid, I think that's much more useful information. Download it and use it.

I would believe if they did such a change that mana spring does not stack with wisdom and is raid-wide, raids would still use wisdom and get the shaman to use some other totem, because you can easily outrange a totem, a totem can be destroyed, shaman can die, totem might need refreshing. All of those things make it still inferior to wisdom buff which will keep ticking during the course of the fight and beyond (can't keep totem up while raid is moving) And I don't see why you

Actually, it seems that the new DP change might have pallies embrace the "look for breaks in healing" playstyle of priests and druids, who basically try to catch every single oo5sr spirt tick they can. Pallies. in a similar fashion, will likely be looking for ways to use DP effectively as well.

DP has an advantage over spirit is that it is effective immediately after used.
It also has a disadvantage in that it can only be used once a minute.

Looks like they want to "fix" DP asap. mmo champion is talking about 3.0.9 being released this week and has these tidbits for Paladins.

Paladin (Skills List / Talent + Glyph Calc.)

* The duration on all Seals has been increased to 30 minutes and can no longer dispelled.
* Divine Plea: The amount healed by your spells is reduced by 50% (up from 20%) but the effect can no longer be dispelled.
* Sanctified Seals: This talent no longer affects dispel resistance, but continues to affect crit chance.

Hi everyone, there is a ton of great information here. To change topics from the int/crit/mp5:

What Strategy do you use when deciding when/who to cast Beacon on and why?

I usually end up casting it on myself when the raid as a whole takes damage or i start being attacked. This allows me to heal the group and especially the tank without worrying about my health. This can make me pull aggro on bosses with adds, but the beacon procs make me practically invulnerable as long as i am spamming HL on tank or raid member. This works great during raid wide damage situations. So basically i use Beacon as an "oh %$#@, i am taking damage" button.

I never cast it on the tank, it appears to be just a waste as the tank is almost always being topped off. Obviously in situations with the OT and MT taunt/trading boss it is on either of them.

I find that in 10 raids, I am assigned to tank heal. When the tank is topped off and has SS proc is up, i will heal any of the other raid members. I find that trying to pick a dps or healer to Beacon usually ends up a waste, since the damage they receive is not consistent.

Am i missing effective use of Beacon?

Except for PvP, Beaconing yourself is generally not a good idea, because you lose SA mana regen.

I beacon the OT usually while healing the MT. If it is a one tank fight, I beacon the MT so he gets a extra heal or two when I raid heal.


It seems Plea is getting the nerf tomorrow, time to use Int gems if you haven't already.

This is just my personal preference, and I've only attempted 10mans so far.

I always beacon my target, which is usually the MT.

I then heal with Holy Light. Yes this is inefficient use of the beacon if the heals are directed at the beacon target. However, I will also raid heal with Flash or HL depending on if we have 2 healers or 3 (we take 3 healers for KT/Sapph still). I am usually able to put a significant number of raid heals out, maximizing my efficiency while ensuring the MT doesn't die. If it's a high-incoming damage situation and I only heal the MT, the efficiency of the beacon is lost, but it's always ready at least. Running with a shadow priest, ret paladin, and warlock gives quite a few options for useful raid heals. Also, if it's strictly a two tank fight (Patchwerk) I can either solo heal it for fun with Beacon, or have the other paladin put his beacon on the OT, and we heal opposite targets with high efficiency.

with the new DP changes, I'm probably going to make a cancel aura macro to remove DP when I cast Holy Light. That way I can pop it and get a couple seconds of regen before I cast again. I'll probably put a shift modifier on my hotbar button with the macro to instead cast without canceling just in case i need a few extra ticks.