I understand that Judgements don't trigger the GCD. (as corrected, this post is moot due to changes in 3.0x to judgement mechanics) This is why we can CS and Judge in the same GCD.

Does this also hold true for Judgement and consecration? I'm trying to work Consecration into a CS>J>DS rotation.

CS-J-DS-con-CS-J-CS-DS-con-J-CS repeat.

On a side note, looking at the dps spread sheet in the closed ret thread. I see mention that SoC uptime doesn't begin until after the GCD. Is this true for all GCDs? Would the GCD from Consecration also impact my SoC uptime?

Judgements most certaintly trigger the GCD.

Judgements *used* to not trigger the global cooldown, but this was changed when they re-did the judgement mechanics.

I've been trying to figure out the correct skill rotation and I was told earlier in this thread that the priority was Judgement > Crusader Strike > Divine Storm.
I'm now wondering if this priority only applies when both cooldowns end at the same exact time or does it also apply when the cooldowns end within half a second of each other.
I've also noticed that the rotation changes drastically when you have a 7 second Judgement cooldown (getting a extra one second reduction from Set Bonus) as opposed to the normal 8 second Judgement cooldown. Any comments on the difference that this one second makes would be nice. I am under the impression that with the shorter Judgement cooldown, all the skills fit together a lot more nicely in the rotation.

HoSacrifice the tank and just make sure chain heals are hitting you. Lots of free mana and you're giving the tank some extra survivability.

Exact same time. Do not delay for 0.5s for a higher ability to come online. Press the lower ability immediately.

Question about Hit rating and its relative importance for Ret raiders:

I read from various sources that Hit Rating is now inferior to Str/AP even before reaching the Hit cap. Is this true?

If it is, then is there any amount of Hit I should aim for at all, or should I just stack Str/AP as far as I can, and fit Hit Rating in when it happens to be on a piece of equipment that also has lots of Str/AP?

No, if you look at Redcape's DPS calculator, hit rating is certainly rated at a higher priority than attack power, by almost double. However, strength is above hit rating, even when not hit capped. What you want to do isn't just *look* for a piece of gear with a bunch of strength or open sockets, but one that has the highest rated DPS score.

When you look at this practice in theory though, I personally value hit rating more than strength. In a perfect situation (your mana never running out) this situations apply correctly. However, I just started raiding Naxx and noticed that I was having mana issues that I did not have before. This was coming from my judgement missing. When I get low on mana I have to start cutting consecrate out just to get my mana back.

Hmmm, I didn't realise this was the issue, my previous post may have to be disregarded then. I assumed that my judgement wasn't hitting the target, therefore not getting the mana back.

Kuthumii on the 5-man hit cap: The highest level mobs you will see in a heroic 5-man will be level 82, which will produce a 6% miss rate. To get to that 6% hit cap, you will need 197 hit rating.

Ataraxeo on Improved Hammer of Justice: Blizzard cannot assume that a 5-man group will always have an interrupter, so any 5-man boss that casts a spell is assumed to be survivable even if they get the casts off. This is most evident in Gun'drak's rhino boss, where you're even encouraged to let him cast his rhino form to get the heroic achievement.

While I have not done 10-man content yet, I assume the same holds true then.

This largely marginalizes the value of Imp. HOJ, because it only comes into play if you do not have an interrupter with your group. Even then, you're lucky to get to use it twice or thrice in a fight.

watersrog on hit vs. STR/AP: STR/AP being more valuable than hit was only true when Judgements of the Wise used to scale with the Judgement damage dealt, since the raid utility via massive mana returns could potentially outweigh any suboptimal gearing/misses. As Rubia has elaborated, this is no longer the case, and hit is especially important to make sure our Judgements are always providing their full Replenishment effect.

Can Torch be better than De-Ranged Waraxe? i have them both and despite the 610 end dmg for axe i dont see hits/crits bigger than hits/crits with Torch (595 end dmg for torch). Can the Axe be bugged? Am i missing something?