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Old 11/27/08, 6:13 AM   #181
thadufuzz
Glass Joe
 
Troll Paladin
 
Turalyon (EU)
They should really know by now to be honest, but I will go check the wow forums for posts about it.

Nothing more annoying popping wings + trinket just go have a bug consume a 10k crit judgement.

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Old 11/27/08, 6:28 AM   #182
Chmur
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Shadowsong (EU)
Originally Posted by Milou View Post
I've not heard of an acknowledgement of it's existence from anyone at Blizzard yet so it's totally up in the air.
I do believe the bug was acknowledged by blues, but along the lines of "we know it is disturbing and we will look into it when we have time". Of course, not ETA or anything given. However, my memory does not serve me well, so let's wait for Thadufuzz to come with any post he may dig.

Save the dolphins or something please. They are in more danger than Ret pallies
-Golden quote from those wild days around 3.03 release-

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Old 11/27/08, 7:50 AM   #183
Selenia
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Paladin
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
Originally Posted by Milou View Post
I've not heard of an acknowledgement of it's existence from anyone at Blizzard yet so it's totally up in the air.
I got a "This is a known issue and is currently being worked on" when I poked a GM about it.

That said, this is the standardised response so it doesn't really say much.

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Old 11/27/08, 11:34 AM   #184
Mithriel
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Magtheridon (EU)
Originally Posted by Milou View Post
After running a few 1000 auto-swing tests with various gear on the boss level target dummy in Silvermoon, the numbers completely agree with what I've witnessed in various setups over the last two weeks on live raiding. I hit cap at 5% meaning I'm getting a 4% hit rating for free, which also meets the numbers I've been seeing since I got on beta.

Expertise is as expected. And I did the tests a few times with and without ret aura.
I done the same, though slightly smaller. I did around 500 autoswings in 2 different gearsets (max hit and max str) and completely naked and with and without ret aura. And everytime i had to conclude, we had around 3-4% hitrating coming from nowwhere.

This basicly leads me to think if i should perhaps resocket my gear again. Atm im expertise capped and got 202 hitrating (quite some below the 9% hit) yet i never miss. Could maybe regem the 2 16 hitrating to 2x 16strength instead.

ps. yesterdays 25man naxx clear, around 1% with 178hitrating.

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Old 11/27/08, 1:20 PM   #185
Alarius
Von Kaiser
 
Human Paladin
 
Bloodhoof
What is the consensus on the enchant of choice for 2H weapons?

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Old 11/27/08, 5:33 PM   #186
Gaeryth
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Sunstrider (EU)
The best dps enchant is Berserker, however it's very expensive. Greater Savagery is a good and cheap enchant, like Savagery was in BC.

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Old 11/27/08, 7:10 PM   #187
Syls
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Ghostlands
I have a question about the t7 gloves, are they not as desirable as some other pieces? I use MaxDPS to determine a lot of my gear choices and as of yet they don't seem to appear on there. I thought with the added Divine Storm 2 piece set bonus and red socket they would be fairly good.

If not I have my eye on a Mirror of Truth.

Any thoughts on the t7 pieces?

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Old 11/27/08, 7:34 PM   #188
Kaeldan
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
<IRS>
Perenolde
Does anyone know the new hit rating cap for a ret pally?

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Old 11/27/08, 9:08 PM   #189
Alarius
Von Kaiser
 
Human Paladin
 
Bloodhoof
Originally Posted by Gaeryth View Post
The best dps enchant is Berserker, however it's very expensive. Greater Savagery is a good and cheap enchant, like Savagery was in BC.
Duly noted, thank you.

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Old 11/28/08, 2:00 AM   #190
Chmur
Von Kaiser
 
Dwarf Paladin
 
Shadowsong (EU)
Originally Posted by Syls View Post
I have a question about the t7 gloves, are they not as desirable as some other pieces? I use MaxDPS to determine a lot of my gear choices and as of yet they don't seem to appear on there. I thought with the added Divine Storm 2 piece set bonus and red socket they would be fairly good.

If not I have my eye on a Mirror of Truth.

Any thoughts on the t7 pieces?
I don't recall the proper stats but generaly I have feeling that there are better items outside tier for every slot bar shoulders. That however changes if you account 2T7 and especialy 4T7 bonus.


Originally Posted by Kaeldan View Post
Does anyone know the new hit rating cap for a ret pally?
hit cap 9% as usual, 295 rating.



Originally Posted by Gaeryth View Post
The best dps enchant is Berserker, however it's very expensive. Greater Savagery is a good and cheap enchant, like Savagery was in BC.
Massacre is better than Savagery, and is easy to get.

Save the dolphins or something please. They are in more danger than Ret pallies
-Golden quote from those wild days around 3.03 release-

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Old 11/28/08, 2:33 AM   #191
Inu
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Priest
 
Cenarius
Regarding the judgement issue.


We are looking into some reports of this happening. It is not a case that is trivial to reproduce though so it will require some more investigation and isn't just something we can immediately hotfix. (Though we will if it ends up being a simple change in the end.)

As a reminder, please don't make demands on which posts I should or should not reply to. I'm sure if you stop to think about it for a moment, you can imagine what these forums will evolve into if that becomes the status quo. In fact, every time I see a thread making such a demand I feel like I shouldn't respond to it, lest players think that they figure out the trick to getting a blue response.

This was not an intended change to adjust paladin damage, and victimized claims to the contrary really aren't helpful.

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Old 11/28/08, 6:48 AM   #192
Valerys
Don Flamenco
 
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
Am I the only one to never get this bug? I have not noticed Judgements disappearing at all.

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Old 11/28/08, 7:11 AM   #193
Yuumei
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Uldaman
Question.....Is Devotion Aura(with three points into improved) the way to go while tanking? Verse retribution aura. I understand that one would have to switch aura for such fights, but in general....Devotion aura or Retribution aura? Thank you

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Old 11/28/08, 8:07 AM   #194
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Upsidazi
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Originally Posted by Yuumei View Post
Question.....Is Devotion Aura(with three points into improved) the way to go while tanking? Verse retribution aura. I understand that one would have to switch aura for such fights, but in general....Devotion aura or Retribution aura? Thank you
The option is taking less damage or producing more threat. Producing more threat is typically a non-issue, so the obvious choice is to go for taking less damage.

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Old 11/28/08, 8:14 AM   #195
caboom
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Draenei Warrior
 
Grim Batol (EU)
Originally Posted by Chicken View Post
The option is taking less damage or producing more threat. Producing more threat is typically a non-issue, so the obvious choice is to go for taking less damage.
It is also to be noted that Retribution aura scales downwards with avoidance(misses/dodges/parries do not triger it), while the talent points into Imp Devotion Aura are better spent there than in the other talents on the same tier.

While I was here I wanted to ask if we have some Ret paladin dedicated enough to come up with a guide on-par for rets with the ones for Holy and Prot paladins in this forum. It would be much apreciated.

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