Once again, HP/mitigation vs avoidance is a personal preference - of both you and your healers. If your healers are comfortable reactive (or proactively anticipating) healing big spikes, then you'll actually take less overall damage in avoidance gear. Generally though, it will be some balance between the two, and where you're comfortable with that being will be up to you.

There is no "decay" on pure stats. Strength, spell damage, stamina will all give the same amount of benefit at 80 that they did at 70. Anything with a rating on it will decay though. Defense, crit, etc are all tied to the character's level.

When you crit with Lay on Hands, should it proc the heal over time from Sheath of Light?

I've never seen LoH do so, but I feel like its a heal so it should; maybe I'm just missing something though.

I don't think you will ever see LoH crit as it heals the amount of health that the player has.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong. (How's that for a simple answer )

LoH Can Crit.

I'm fairly sure Lay on Hands crits don't apply to Sheath of Light, which goes against the wording of the tooltip ("your critical healing spells heal the target for 60% of the healed amount over 12 seconds")

Having said that, it would be a rather ridiculous hot so I can understand it being excluded...

Well, after I installed WOTLK I've never seen it crit while it did crit before WOTLK.

Lay on Hands
Instant cast
40 yards rangeHeals a friendly target for an amount equal to the Paladin's maximum health and restores X of their mana.

Equal means to me that it if I have 17k health it heals my target for 17k health and I've never seen the spell crit since WOTLK. That's why i think it won't crit.

Wow Web Stats

You'll have to actually expand the columns to see number of crits, however you can clearly see that Oesophagus and Thordic got a critical Lay on Hands each during the course of the raid.

I'll confirm this. I got a LoH crit while running heroics Sunday night. Checking Recount after the fight, there were no ridiculously large SoL ticks, sadly. I guess a HoT worth 90% of the Ret paladin's max HP would be a bit much. = P

Sorry for these questions but I have not played WoW in over a year and I am thinking of leveling another paladin.

Is Judgment of the Pure worthless for pvp healing? Do you ever use HL for pvp?

Does Stoicism and Blessed Hands stack?

Does the silence/interrupt effect reduction of Imp Conc Aura apply to the paladin or just his group members?

The magic resistance buff from Sacred Cleansing, does that apply to all magic spells like a mage's fireball or lock's shadowbolt?

Simple question: is [Darkmoon Card: Greatness] worth investing in from a Prot point of view? And if it is, which version would be better - +90 str or +90 agi?

Not worthless, but I could see people dropping JotP for PvP healing. I use HL for PvP a lot.

Yes, they stack.

Imp Conc Aura goes to everyone in range.

No.

LoH is likely removed from being affected by SoL, due to that being too good.


http://wowwebstats.com/fefqcc6wqlj2u?ab=48788 I got a 33k LoH crit with around 22k health, so it is affected by 6% healing buff.

True, but that's the avoidance and mitigation part of the proc. If you add the threat and damage components of the proc would it make it at least on par with the other available tanking trinkets out there?

And another question, for those of you who had the benefit of Vigilance - is the threat loss manageable and worth the damage reduction that comes with it?

The main point you are missing here is that the proc is uncontrollable and when tanking something you're all about controlling your actions, that said considering the threat factor an on use or proc even BV trinket would probably better.

As far as I know the DR does not stack with Sanctuary, and it's probably worth it only if you severely outgear your tanking partner. A melee DPS(ret, dps warr, enh shammy) would be far better of having vigilance than you would.

I've tanked Malygos, Sartharion and Maexxna with Vigilance on and never really had a problem. Our TG Warrior was pushing me pretty hard on Malygos (25) when the patches started piling up but it hasn't mattered since I discovered the ShoR bug.

Does Vigilance stack with Santurary? I would've always thought no but I read a post on EJ somewhere a few weeks back where a Mage and a Paladin tested it out in dueling and confirmed that it did. I've since read people swear that it doesn't so I don't know what to think anymore.

Hello,

My question this time is about Ret Pally dps rotations, I've quit following the Ret paladin mega thread a while back, I was wondering if anyone could kindly explain or provide me a link that contains a definitive theorycraft that concludes a FCFS is the best for dps rotation

Here is what I myself gathered so far...
FCFS rotation includes judgement, crusader strike, divine storm and consecration, since it means "First Come First Serve" I assume it means use whatever is off CD first.

Here is what I'm wondering, Say if my crusader strike has 2 sec remaining and Divine Storm has 1 sec of CD remaining, under a FCFS rotation, should I use DS first? even the GCD conflicts with Crusader, or should I wait for CS because it does more damage?

It wouldn't surprise me if it does currently stack, even if it's not supposed to. Devotion Aura and Stoneskin Totem aren't supposed to stack either as far as I know, yet they currently do.

You answered your own question but chose to ignore the answer. Since Divine Storm will be off CD while CS will still be on CD, Divine Storm will be the "first coming" and therefore should be used. That's the entire definition of FCFS.

Thank you for the reply, Questioner! But I still have my doubts, FCFS *is* the best dps rotation for retribution, yes...? I've been priortizing all the way through TBC, and I have doubts about this... I would like somebody to slap me and tell me FCFS is right!

On single target the priority is generally agreed upon to be Judgement, CS, then DS... consecrate when mana is available, Exo/HW if applicable in that order. Multitargets obviously prioritize AoE more.

I'm not sure if the actual benefits stack, but some quick testing reveals that if you Vigilance someone with Greater Sanc they get both buffs on their buff bar, but if you Vigilance someone with 10min Sanc Vigilance will remove it and you will be unable to buff Sanc over the Vigilance.

I don't think this deserves a thread but,

With the high raid damage in many encounters and damage buffs gained through quite a few encounters (malygos and thaddius).

Is seal of blood becomming less and less a part of ret dps and isn't this a concern to ret paladins that they can only be viable on most but not all encounters?

Prehaps it would be an idea for the backlash damage to not be modified by external damage modifiers (Static charge, malygos' vortex damage). Obviously shadow priests have a simmlar problem but seal of the martyr is a pretty big part of ret dps from what I have seen.

FCFS always wins. Ability A comes off cooldown, Ability B will be off cooldown in .5 seconds. Hit Ability A now and B in 1.5 - you lose 1 second off B. Wait for Ability B, hit it, hit Ability A - you lose 2 seconds, your .5 and a 1.5 GCD. That extra one second is a loss of DPS any way you cut it. Repeat this over a fight - eventually the one seconds add up to an entirely missed ability - lost damage.

Priority is only considered if you have multiple things off GCD at once. After movement on a boss or due to collision. Priority breaks your deadlocks, FCFS is everything else - never wait.

Consider yourself slapped by science?