Do Divine Protection and/or Hand of Protection reduce incoming damage from Hand of Sacrifice and Divine Sacrifice the way Divine Shield does?

Some people had reported that Divine protection did not reduce the damage transferred to you in previous posts. I didn't dare trying after that
Hand of Sacrifice and Divine Sacrifice both transfer the same school of damage your targets take, so if it's physical damage only, Hand of protection will make you immune to the transferred damage, having the same effect as Divine Shield. If you use HoP for, say, fire damage, then you will receive all of the fire damage in your 30 yards vicinity though

It should, but I have not tried that because you would likely die in a 25 man.

However, Divine Protection (50% damage reduction) + Hand of Sac will make you take up to 50% of your health bar in damage using one GCD.

/castsequence Divine Protection, Hand of Sacrifice

So Divine Protection does reduce the incoming damage from Hand of Sacrifice?

Hi, I looked around but I couldn't find what I wanted.

How do the damage reduction percentages stack? (Improved Righteous Fury, Blessing of Sanctuary, Divine Protection, Ardent Defender, Glyph of Hand of Salvation, Armor, etc.)

edit: Meant to also ask if there was a way to mess up Divine Protection or Glyph of Hand of Salvation's efficiency with diminishing returns or anything of that liking, so if there was I could avoid it. Same with if there would be a best order to buff up (6% damage reduction before the 3%, etc.)

I gather from the Holy Paladin OP that you need 20.3% haste from gear to be at the 1s GCD 'cap' with full raid buffs + JotP.

So 666 haste on the character sheet?

Hi, relativly simple question, is there any Retribution BIS list around, which only includes the Pre-Ulduar Content/T7 Content?

Of course there is. Go look in the 3.0 Ret thread for it, I'm almost positive it's listed there multiple times. I don't know why you'd bother though..even the 10m Ulduar stuff is better than it - if anything you can get a vault group pretty easily and get 3 pieces of T8 from there eventually.

I believe the number has been calculated as 676 several times through this thread and the holy paladin thread. 666 isn't really the number to aim for a man of light . Seriously though, it's 676 haste rating that gets you to 1 second GCD with totems, paladin talents, etc included.

I would not recommend stacking any more crit. You will be well over 50% holy crit with your HLs raid buffed. You could indeed use some more haste, though. Your big mana pool and crit will kick in with better results when you have higher haste. Maybe you want to gem for it in order to have at least 500 haste rating.

The old Ret thread (now locked) had a few at the time BiS lists. However due to Paladin changes (expertise became better and Judgement become weaker) they may not be the best anymore. You want as close to 264 hit and 26 expertise as you can get.
That said, there are three items from T7 that are still quite powerful, the Leather BP from Maly 25, the melee cloak from Kel-25, and the Neck quest item from Saph-25. The Darkmoon trinket is still the best trinket overall (AH for around 4000g nowadays).

With no other context, you want us to disagree with actual math done in a spreadsheet about item values? Pawn is a little bit harder because there are interactions between different stats (e.g. as strength goes up, crit becomes more valuable), but in general, I'd tend to believe the spreadsheet unless you have evidence to the contrary. Basically, you'd be trading:

(43 hit, 7 crit and a Blue socket) for (8 str, 41 haste and a Yellow socket).

Note that you could replace your boot enchant (Enchant Boots - Icewalker - Spell - World of Warcraft) with Enchant Boots - Greater Assault - Spell - World of Warcraft to gain 32 AP at the loss of 12 hit and 12 crit.

I also don't know if you regularly raid with a Draenei in your group, if so, the Draenei presence gives 1% hit, so you'd be over cap at 7%.

With all special attacks being a 2-roll system, and only SoB and white swings benefitting from Haste, I'd think that 1.25% haste would be less of a boost that closing that .92% miss chance. You're also going to suffer horribly when you replace [Pyrite Infuser] later, so I definitely wouldn't shard the T7.25 shoulders just yet.

You also didn't mention that you were dropping your 2pc T7 bonus to have 3/5 T8 and 1/5 T7.... that might have an impact on your overall dps as well. (And may be reflected in the spreadsheet numbers...)

Quick question:
From a tankadin's POV is it possible to tank general Vezax? (only SA available)
If it is, then how? do I need to place over the shadow crashes to reduce mana costs? is SA enough?
Any useful tip regarding this matter will be welcome :>

Spiritual Attunement should be more than enough, he hits very hard. Just make sure you have two points in Spiritual Attunement, not the single point that's plenty for every single other encounter.

You also still have regen from Blessing of Sanctuary as well, and it may be useful to drop Consecration from your rotation if you drop below 30% mana.

Very possible. In fact, we prefer having me tank Vezax over any other tank because the increased speed from Pursuit of Justice makes the kiting during Surge of Darkness a complete joke.

Our first attempts, I had no mana issues whatsoever even with only 1 point in SA. I've gotten several nice avoidance upgrades since then, and had a *much* tougher time keeping in mana on our clear this week. I took far less damage, but my threat was also completely hamstrung by it. Your mileage may vary.

Your warrior should find his intervene button then.
I've tanked vezax fairly often in 10 and 25m, and I find a warrior has a much easier job at kiting him than I do.
(also, on a very slow hitting boss like him, paladin TPS is quite a bit lower than usual, so the warrior and I are on the same level)

Please delete.

Unless you are doing the hardmode there is not really a reason to kite him at all.

From what I have read, JC/BS will still be the best professions for a retribution paladin even with the changes to JC. But with enchanting as main profession, what would be best of JC and BS as second profession?

The information in the very first post of the Retribution thread remains accurate. JC simply no longer allows you gain extra on top of the bonus of 27 stat gems by way of socket bonuses and meta-gem requirements.

3.1 Retribution Paladin Thread

So I've just started doing arena's on my paladin, I raid as ret so holy is only my second spec which means I can tweak it, we'll say for pvp.

Question: Is this an alright holy pvp build?

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Quick question:

[Cryptfiend's Bite] versus [Relentless Edge]

The Ulduar spear has better stats and more dps, but the it's much faster. However I'm really doubting now if speed really matters THAT much, since faster weapons means more SoB procs.

Any advice? I'd love to get my hands on weaps like Rune Edge, Aesir's Edge or Earthshaper but right now those are the weaps I got.