Consider that the Venture Co. libram has more up-time and a greater critical bonus. No, you wouldn't open with Divine Storm, but once you have used it the bonus lasts slightly longer and there is only two seconds where it isn't up between casts (ideally). Also if you think about it, the Furious Blows libram doesn't allow for the Judgement spell itself to benefit from the crit bonus since the Judgement is what activates it. Assuming you have Fanaticism, the Venture Co. Libram maximizes your chance of landing Righteous Vengeance.

All in all, Librams are pretty lackluster in this expansion, but in some ways they always have been. Hybrids lose out on their ranged slots. I'm not entirely sure myself which one is clearly better, but at the moment I see more potential gain from the venture Co. Libram of Retribution.

As far as I can see the Greatness card is +90 Agility, not strength?

This trinket actually comes in 4 versions, for each stat mentioned in the "proc" tooltip. So there is 90STR base and 300STR on proc version of this, which makes it very good trinket for us indeed.

[Fury of the Five Flights] Drops from heroic Sartharion. In theory it becomes a passive 320 AP, rather nifty.

Has anyone done the math on what would be already "ideal" raiding gear (trinkets aside.) Whilst i know its still early days, the majority of drops are now known. I am currently doing them math the see what i can come up with. Are people planing to go with a four t7 and one random piece? How to get or get close to the hit cap with still keeping a strong amount of strength is interesting when it comes to gear selection; due to there being so many variations of items per slot.

In Beta, only one card was made while collecting the item information. On live, no one has made a different card and uploaded the item info. There certainly is a strength version.


The only way to get Nobles cards made is to get a Scribe to make a card and then hope the RNG gives you the right cards.


Edit: To answer the below question, you get to pick one of four cards with a completed Noble Deck.

All 4 versions obtained from handing in the Nobles Deck? Is there any word as to whether you can chose which of the 4 you receive on live, or is it random?

Have we verified this is still the case?

Edit: Regardless, getting the deck is pretty ridiculus as a scribe. The mats are insane for the price of herbs right now its a random chance to get 1 card out of 4 decks of 10 cards each. That's 1/4 chance to get the deck you need and 1/40 chance of being the card you need, for upwards of 100g worth of mats.

Getting one card for hour of gathering, in worst case selling it for 300g to friends or AH. That is not that bad for hour of work, really. Already have 4 cards out of Nobles deck, so will report soon how the rewards work if the luck still sticks to me.

With regards to enchants, will [Formula: Enchant 2H Weapon - Massacre] be superior to [Formula: Enchant Weapon - Berserking] ? I am gonna assume that the passive 110 AP is better but i am not 100% on it, or maybe one of the TBC enchants is currently top? Maybe those were nerfed like Crusader was when TBC hit.

So by your numbers:

10s uptime at 400AP (120SP) with a 40s cooldown and high proc chance, wouldn't we simply model it as a passive 100AP at best (400AP * 10s/40s)? If someone comes up with firmer numbers we might get a slight edge, but so far doesn't look very impressive.