One of our prot paladins uses HW glyph for stunning the enraged horrors on LK 10. It can be useful.

Well, like I said - it can be situationally useful for the stun aspect, not necessarily the threat or aoe parts, even though they are nice bonuses.

I respectfully disagree with your conclusion. Here is my log for Blood prince 10man fight, you can also go check out 25man blood prince fight too.

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

As you see can the upime of buff "evasive" is 81% I am solo tanking Valanar, OT is tanking Taldram and we have a range tank for Kelseth. So, this means your libram DOES PROC even when the boss your tanking is at 1hp.

Indeed, I came to this conclusion as well this week. Still puzzles me what happened last week, but I edited the above to reflect this correction.

Good Morning,

first time posting here, as you can well see that. I could not locate any information about this mace; Last Word, that drops off of Professor Putricide in ICC25. I have a friend on a different server that is a Paladin Tank and he enchanted it with +63SP, he said it was an experiment and it's working well for him, but that was the only explanation given. I was wondering if you guys and gals have seen this "experiment" before and why is it good? if it isn't good, what would you recommend to enchant on this weapon. thank you for your time and patience.

As it happens, I recently got a Last Word, and am still pondering what to enchant it with, mentally weighing the usual suspects: Blood draining, Blade Ward, and Mongoose (you could add Accuracy or even Berserking to the list as threat enchants, but trying to make Last Word a threat weapon is too bizarre to contemplate). Prot paladin threat used to be driven by spellpower and +SP was a good paladin threat enchant, but that hasn't been true in ages. Today, +SP will still provide a prot pally a tiny bit of additional threat via the coefficient on Consecration and possibly another ability or two, but it won't be much and that's all it will do. Generally speaking, its a really bad enchant (not totaly useless, but not far off) for a prot pally.

The only reason I can think of to use +SP is in the hopes that the +Heal ability of Last Word has some odd interaction with SP, particularly an SP enchant, giving it an outsized benefit which one would not expect. I haven't tested this nor have I seen a record of anyone else testing it (AFAIK there has been relatively little testing done on Last Word), so I suppose its possible, but its pretty unlikely.

The healing received proc appears to be functionally identical to giving each healer a +300 SP buff. The user's SP has absolutely no effect on it, it's simply 300*SP_Coefficient for whatever spell is being used. Enchanting SP on any tanking weapon is a huge mistake. That said, so is Blade Ward, which is strictly inferior to Mongoose in every situation.

I enchanted mine with Accuracy, because as it happens, Last Word happens to be a fairly excellent threat weapon (surpassed only by Mithrios, from LK, and various 2.6 speed DPS weapons). The buff has 100% uptime, so is effectively 100 (114 heroic) passive strength on the mace, which far outstrips anything else of the same iLvL in terms of threat stats. It's only the 2.6 speed (which abuses non-normalised seals) which allows DPS weapons to pull ahead.

The Last Word proc bonus works on Judgement of Light.

If you want threat, Berserking is better (at least for trash mobs).


Combat Rogues are sometimes better than Mult. Both specs are close.

Was starting to disagree with you, but I realized that A) the prot pally thread isn't the place for it, and B) Paragon had not one but two combat rogues in their Heroic Arthas world-first kill. So, looks like you're right.

When you say LW procs on JoL, do you mean that it just improves the healing you receive, or does it improve the healing everyone else gets from a JoL you apply?

Just the tank gets the extra healing when using Last Word. Divinity affects that JoL heal as well.

FYI Paragon's tank is using 5/5 divinity.

As I see it, the issue with Divinity is that it is the only talent not included the cookie-cutter build that provides any sort of defensive benefit. Even if pally single target threat is "bad," it's still easily sufficient in a heavily defensive spec such as Lazeil shows on armory, especially with a tricks/misdirect early on. I mean, Lazeil's still using the togc10 sword because it's still the highest EH tank weapon available (including heroic Mithrios). If he needed more threat I'm sure he has ilvl264+ weapons available, but he chooses to maximize his EH instead.

For my money, divinity is such a piddling survivability boost that it isn't worth five talent points and I'd rather do more damage for fun and to make threat easier for me, and because I don't always play prot, so I don't want a trash/boss prot specs as some people have. People who are min/maxing for absolutely maximal survivability will take divinity, and people who choose to put some emphasis on tps/dps will prefer talents such as crusade and guarded by the light.