JoW proc chance - Page 2

Lytbringer · 05/12/09, 9:07 PM

Hi all I am sure one of you has the answer to the following, which for my life I can't figure out:

Before Dual Spec came bout I was a Healadin, I did not have a problem when doing quests etc. to get mana back by simply whacking anything, even a skunk..
After dual spec I can do it with either ret or heal However here is where my concern is and I hope it is easy (and that I do not feel like much of a tard after)
As we are trying to lvl lowbies we bring my MIL in for heals on her Pally (at the time of first attempt was 72) Running thru Mara I was trying to get her to use SoV and as often as available to use JoW- but she refused and we all got into an argument over it-
She insisted that she would not ever get mana restored like I would with JoW so she used (as a holy tank) SoW ....

Today we ran UB currently she is 74, still holy... and the same thing she had to keep stopping to drink so the argument almost began when hubby said for us to go on each others toons so she could see what I could do with a Heladin

We did just that and Grrrrr she was right her JoW never returns mana from ANY whack.... so we looked over points and w/e else and I am left clueless. I know it is not from glyphs since my son should me how to get the magnificent mana return long before glyphs were announced. Only Thing she did read was in combat log it says that (on my toon) 'Lytbringer gained ### from Judgement of the Wise' and that was in Holy spec, not ret, so there was not even points there- to even get there to that Judgement you would need a minimum of 31 points...

If any one at all knows how to resolve this I would appreciate it so very much (you can put me down but try not to be too harsh

)

TY

Lyt

sno · 05/13/09, 8:05 AM

Originally Posted by Lytbringer

Hi all I am sure one of you has the answer to the following, which for my life I can't figure out:

Before Dual Spec came bout I was a Healadin, I did not have a problem when doing quests etc. to get mana back by simply whacking anything, even a skunk..
After dual spec I can do it with either ret or heal However here is where my concern is and I hope it is easy (and that I do not feel like much of a tard after)
As we are trying to lvl lowbies we bring my MIL in for heals on her Pally (at the time of first attempt was 72) Running thru Mara I was trying to get her to use SoV and as often as available to use JoW- but she refused and we all got into an argument over it-
She insisted that she would not ever get mana restored like I would with JoW so she used (as a holy tank) SoW ....

Today we ran UB currently she is 74, still holy... and the same thing she had to keep stopping to drink so the argument almost began when hubby said for us to go on each others toons so she could see what I could do with a Heladin

We did just that and Grrrrr she was right her JoW never returns mana from ANY whack.... so we looked over points and w/e else and I am left clueless. I know it is not from glyphs since my son should me how to get the magnificent mana return long before glyphs were announced. Only Thing she did read was in combat log it says that (on my toon) 'Lytbringer gained ### from Judgement of the Wise' and that was in Holy spec, not ret, so there was not even points there- to even get there to that Judgement you would need a minimum of 31 points...

If any one at all knows how to resolve this I would appreciate it so very much (you can put me down but try not to be too harsh

)

TY

Lyt

This should have been posted in Paladin: Simple Questions/Simple Answers
As a retri paladin you usually have the talent Judgement of the Wise witch will instantly grant you 25% of your base mana when you judge something.
As a holy paladin, however, you usually don't have that talent witch means that to get mana back you actually have to go up and hit the mob so that either Seal of Wisdom or Judgement of Wisdom can procc and for best result you should have both and then go hit the mob for a while with your weapon and hope you get lots of proccs.

I didn't get the last part of your post though, if she judge a mob and go up ahd hit it, won't JoW ever procc? Or do you mean that the judement it self doesn't return any mana? And did you say that she played on your character with a holy specc and still got mana from Judgement of the Wise?

Lytbringer · 05/13/09, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by sno

This should have been posted in Paladin: Simple Questions/Simple Answers
As a retri paladin you usually have the talent Judgement of the Wise witch will instantly grant you 25% of your base mana when you judge something.
As a holy paladin, however, you usually don't have that talent witch means that to get mana back you actually have to go up and hit the mob so that either Seal of Wisdom or Judgement of Wisdom can procc and for best result you should have both and then go hit the mob for a while with your weapon and hope you get lots of proccs.

I didn't get the last part of your post though, if she judge a mob and go up ahd hit it, won't JoW ever procc? Or do you mean that the judement it self doesn't return any mana? And did you say that she played on your character with a holy specc and still got mana from Judgement of the Wise?

Thank you for your reply and I apologize for wrong section posting.

To answer where I may have confused you- she as holy pally does not ever get the big mana return off of JoW only the small chance % And yes, on my pally as holy, Unpointed in the JoWise I DO still get the whopping 1000+mana return also the ticks.
Perhaps this is nothing more than a glitch in the system,
Again I thank you for your response.

Lyt

Lenirolá · 05/23/09, 8:58 AM

please delete, found an answer in another section