Rawr Retribution Model - Page 11

Endoscient · 05/14/09, 12:45 PM

Rawr 2.2.4 was released, as always you can download it from Codeplex.

Changes

Bug fixes for the previously mentioned issues.

Endoscient · 05/15/09, 9:35 AM

Unfortunately another bug creeped in right before 2.2.4 was released, effect the value of the Gladiatior libram. Thankfully the default item cache has the correct libram values, but if you refresh the item data on either of the Glad librams they will be worth around twice of what they should be. If this happens follow these steps.

Right click on the item and select "Edit..."
Find the group box titled "Special Effects".
Click on the drop down box and select "144 Attack Power (10 Sec on Spell Cast)"
Hit the Delete button
You are done!

So for that bug, but 2.2.5 should be released in a day or two which will fix this.

Rankoo · 05/17/09, 6:52 PM

hi!
Does rawr consider the 4p7,5 bonus?
I have no access to ulduar gear, so i question myself if (due to the seal/judgement dmg change) the 4p7,5 bonis is still worth it (i have zelieks gauntlets lying in my bank)?
Thanks for help!

Trakor · 05/20/09, 1:54 AM

Originally Posted by Rankoo

hi!
Does rawr consider the 4p7,5 bonus?
I have no access to ulduar gear, so i question myself if (due to the seal/judgement dmg change) the 4p7,5 bonis is still worth it (i have zelieks gauntlets lying in my bank)?
Thanks for help!

No, the 4p7 bonus isnt worth much anymore, since cs will be your main priority, meaning judgement cd will be at least 7.5secs (accounting for no clashes, no lag and perfect timing). Get the Zelieks gloves for the expertise, it's pretty good if you cant get t8.

Kyth · 05/26/09, 1:50 PM

Originally Posted by Endoscient

You can try using mono, but its flaky at best with Rawr. If you have a new Intel mac, your best bet is to dual boot or use a virtual copy of windows (with Parallels or VM Ware Fusion) and run it like that.

I actually went out and got parallels because I was tired of trying to figure out how to make Mono work with the current incarnations of Rawr. (and to easily run some other windows software.)

But running on 2.2.5 rawr (and 2.2.4 and any other older version I tried):

The application failed to initialize properly (0xc00000135)

Are you certain rawr runs with parallels?

Endoscient · 05/26/09, 1:53 PM

Originally Posted by Kyth

I actually went out and got parallels because I was tired of trying to figure out how to make mono work with the current incarnations of Rawr. (and to easily run some other windows software.)

But running on 2.2.5 rawr (and 2.2.4):

The application failed to initialize properly (0xc00000135)

Are you certain rawr runs with parallels?

Yes, I have run and developed Rawr using Parallels. The answer to your issue is easily found in the Readme.txt included with Rawr.

Q: I get an error on load, "To run this application you must first install..." or "The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135)." How do I fix this?
A: Install .NET Framework 2.0 from Microsoft. If it still doesn't work, uninstall .NET Framework completely, reinstall .NET Framework 2.0, and try Rawr again. Download link for .NET Framework 2.0 from Microsoft: Download details: .NET Framework Version 2.0 Redistributable Package (x86)

Kyth · 05/26/09, 1:58 PM

Originally Posted by Endoscient

Yes, I have run and developed Rawr using Parallels. The answer to your issue is easily found in the Readme.txt included with Rawr.

Meh. I did a search on "parallels" in all the rawr documentation, a google search on "using rawr with parallels", and an EJ forum search "rawr AND parallels".

For those of us who haven't owned a Windows PC since 95 (used unix-based computers since then, Mac recently), we wouldn't have thought to search for .NET errors.

Thanks for the pointer though. I did try to find it before posting. And given that my mono experience is "runs on one version of rawr, but doesn't on the next!", well....

cremor · 05/30/09, 10:26 AM

Wouldn't it be a good idea to include a default gemming template which uses an [Enchanted Tear] in a yellow/blue socket?

• Zurm · 06/01/09, 9:53 AM

Originally Posted by cremor

Wouldn't it be a good idea to include a default gemming template which uses an [Enchanted Tear] in a yellow/blue socket?

This isn't necessary until 3.2, because it's worse than [Bold Scarlet Ruby] in all situations except activating a meta or oddly good socket bonuses (such as [Obsidian Greathelm]). And since you SHOULD be a JC, you can just use prismatics in your existing blue slots.

cremor · 06/01/09, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Zurm

This isn't necessary until 3.2, because it's worse than [Bold Scarlet Ruby] in all situations except activating a meta or oddly good socket bonuses (such as [Obsidian Greathelm]).

Yes, I'm only thinking of it to activate the meta. One [Enchanted Tear] is better than one [Etched Monarch Topaz] and one [Sovereign Twilight Opal] if I'm hitcapped without gems, right?

And since you SHOULD be a JC, you can just use prismatics in your existing blue slots.

I'm no JC, I'm a blacksmith.

Zorgie · 06/01/09, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by cremor

Yes, I'm only thinking of it to activate the meta. One [Enchanted Tear] is better than one [Etched Monarch Topaz] and one [Sovereign Twilight Opal] if I'm hitcapped without gems, right?

Why would you use a hit gem instead of Str/crit if you're hit capped? Still the tear is better, yes.

Originally Posted by cremor

I'm no JC, I'm a blacksmith.

He didn't say you are a JC, but that you should be. I'm a BS aswell, together with JC. It's not that hard to level it up

cremor · 06/01/09, 1:39 PM

Originally Posted by Zorgie

Why would you use a hit gem instead of Str/crit if you're hit capped? Still the tear is better, yes.

Oh, forgot about the crit gem because it's neither listed in the Rawr default gemming templates nor in the Retribution Thread here

But still, as you say, I would prefer the tear and a +16 Str gem instead of two other gems to activate the meta.
And for that reason it should be added to Rawrs default gemming templates in my opinion.

He didn't say you are a JC, but that you should be. I'm a BS aswell, together with JC. It's not that hard to level it up

I should, if I want to get even the latest point out of my character, yes. But since I'm not a high-end raider, I'm ok with my professions

Endoscient · 06/01/09, 2:34 PM

I plan to update the default gemming templates to include a tear when the JC nerf patch hit. Until then it is a non normal case, and it is quite easy to add your own template.

Endoscient · 06/05/09, 5:51 PM

I have a short preview for you about where we are going with Rawr. In version 3.0, which will be our next major release besides a few minor bug fixes releases (2.2.7, etc.), we are going to be switching to a Silverlight/WPF. There will be a Silverlight version you can run right from the web browser (with the ability to install it for offline use) on any computer that has Silverlight installed. There will also be a desktop app based on WPF.

Yes that is Rawr running natively on Mac OS X (only Intel mac support though sorry).

Meebo · 06/06/09, 2:16 AM

What kind of improvement is the Silverlight/WPF have over the current implemented engine?