Read his post again. And again. Try giving some attention to the second quote he puts in his post and where it comes from.

He means that this thread is about the Retribution module of Rawr specifically. Any other concerns related to Rawr, e.g. the optimizer, since it is not a retribution only feature, should be directed to the rawr model development thread, located: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t21713-r...leased_1_30_a/

Again, read the first post.

This question has been asked or answered already, in the future please read the entire thread first. For some reason the default item cache included didn't properly set the set names for Tier 8-25. To fix this just right click on the items and select Refresh from Wowhead.

I picked up the [Wrathstone] this week, and I'm trying to get an accurate assessment of its dps value in Rawr. I manually edited the item in Rawr to fix the stats, removing the 856 static AP - this puts it third for me, behind [Darkmoon Card: Greatness] and [Fury of the Five Flights]. Given the 2 min CD, the Wrathstone ties in very nicely with Avenging Wrath. I was wondering if AW is modelled into these trinkets when calculating their dps values? Ignoring the static Crit on the Wrathstone, AW should increased the effective AP of the Wrathstone by far more than the effective AP of FoFF. i.e.

Wrathstone:22.5% (15s/20s * 30)
FoFF: 3.75% (15s/120s * 30)

Apologies if this is not relevant to the Ret module, but considering AW, I have thought this thread is the best place for this question.

Just wanted to point out Rawr treats FotFF in a very ideal and unrealistic sense. I started off ulduar using the fury + DMC:G, and got so fed up with stacks falling that I've just decided to use [Bandit's Insignia] instead. Not only does bandits give most of the AP of a fully stacked fury at all times, but on multi-target fights where your targets may not have sunder/expose up (but likely have CoE-type effects due to DKs/moonkin) it fares far better.

The new Tentacle trinket off Yogg Saron 25 man has 136 passive crit and on use summons a tentacle of yogg saron for I believe 20 seconds with a 2 min CD
Any idea how to model this in Rawr? Would the summoned tentacle's attack power scale off my stats?

For fun I wanted to see if it could be any good.

We have no idea how hard the tentacle hits and if it scales with gear at all. When we know the details of it, it can be modeled.

Stacking "On Use" Trinkets with AW is something I might implement in the future. My main problem with it is that it will be difficult to accurately represent situations like waiting for your Greatness proc, and then poping AW and your use trinket.

If you are having problems with the optimizer returning less dps then your current setup. One issue could be that you are a JC with Dragon Eyes in your current gear, and don't have Jeweler gemming templates enabled. This will cause to optimizer to not use Dragon Eyes, which will results in a dps loss.

I have one inquiry about the optimizer.

First of all I'll say that I have Dragon Eyes enabled in the gemming templates, so that shouldn't mess the situation up. Anyway, the problem is that sometimes when I use the optimizer it gives results which mostly go to Expertise cap and Hit cap while maintaining a high str/ap.
The problem is that when I use the optimizer again, sometimes it suggests me setups which are at hit cap (so I guess the optimizer thinks it's important to have hit cap) but are at 1.5-2% "Change to dodge", i.e. 4.5-5.5% Expertise, so I thought that for this to happen the overall the other stats should be higher, significantly higher, but they're not that higher.
I mean STR, Haste and other stuff are higher but not by a large margin. What's up with that?

As I said in the first post, please always post your character file when reporting a potential issue. What is the problem you are having? You think it is overvaluing some stats? It is reasonable for the optimizer to suggest a setup that is not expertise capped since expertise is worth around as much as strength, and when stats are that close it depends on how much other stats (str, crit, etc) that you are losing to get expertise capped if it is worth it or not.

It is also important to note what your thoroughness is set to when talking about optimizer not return the ideal result. Everyone instance I have run into of a hand picked set giving more dps then the one returned by the optimizer was fixed by running the optimizer again on max thoroughness. Even then it isn't guaranteed to find the best dps set, just insanely likely. I know the optimizer is one of the reasons people like using Rawr over a spreadsheet, but if you have any concerns about the accuracy/effectiveness of it please post them on Codeplex or the in the main Rawr thread. I had no hand in creating the optimizer itself, so I won't be able to personally help you as much as others could.