Rawr Retribution Model - Page 9

Endoscient · 07/20/09, 4:51 PM

Originally Posted by Pdawg

Is it still the case that rawr doesn't assume that trinkets with use effects such as [Wrathstone] will ALWAYS be timed with Avenging Wrath? I believe it was simply averaging out the use effects over the cooldown period in the past.

It does not assume it is timed with Avenging Wrath.

This is a feature I would like to add in the future, but when I do I want to do it correctly and comprehensively. Since there are many things you should try to time AW with besides just On Use trinkets. Like waiting for a Greatness proc, Heroism, or using a Speed Potion.

Baklava09 · 07/21/09, 9:41 AM

Hey endo,

I'm curious if you plan on adding a demonic pact function to your spell power buffs list. I do realize that it changes depending on how much spell power the warlock has at the time, but still could be a useful tool, especially since a lot of raids are bringing one now.

Maybe adding the option and inputing your own amount of spell power would work?

Flaccus · 07/22/09, 5:06 PM

Rawr likes to show multiple iterations of items, with different gems (each appearance being rated difference)

How do I get it to show an item only once, with optial gemming?

vorda · 07/22/09, 7:46 PM

Tools, edit gemming templates, put "top gemmings to show" on 1.

Beltaine · 07/24/09, 8:33 AM

What's up with 3.2 mode? Do we change THAT much? (My DPS is cut in half) Or is the model just not right, yet?

Nisall · 07/24/09, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Beltaine

What's up with 3.2 mode? Do we change THAT much? (My DPS is cut in half) Or is the model just not right, yet?

Seal of Blood is getting removed so you need to change the seal to SoV.

Julianne4 · 07/24/09, 4:59 PM

Hi Endo, great module, it has really helped me.

However, is there a bug with the Optimize function? For several versions now, ever since the format of showing the results was changed, it has consistently proposed changes for me which lower my score. Currently it says I have a score of 4994.186 and it suggests changes which will "optimize" this to 4922.11.

Alcapwnd · 07/24/09, 5:08 PM

Originally Posted by Julianne4

Hi Endo, great module, it has really helped me.

However, is there a bug with the Optimize function? For several versions now, ever since the format of showing the results was changed, it has consistently proposed changes for me which lower my score. Currently it says I have a score of 4994.186 and it suggests changes which will "optimize" this to 4922.11.

That's probably due to the fact that you have epic gems or JC gems currently on your character but don't have them selected in the Gemming Templates Filter. This forces the Optimizer to not use these gems and recommend a lower dps build.

Endoscient · 07/24/09, 5:32 PM

Originally Posted by Julianne4

Hi Endo, great module, it has really helped me.

However, is there a bug with the Optimize function? For several versions now, ever since the format of showing the results was changed, it has consistently proposed changes for me which lower my score. Currently it says I have a score of 4994.186 and it suggests changes which will "optimize" this to 4922.11.

As is almost always the case, that is because you don't have everything that you have currently equipped marked as available. These include your weapon enchant, chest enchant, shoulder enchant, and libram.

Monokeros · 07/28/09, 10:49 PM

Does anyone know if theres an option in rawr for it to include other armor types than just plate? It also seems to think that I can only use 1h maces for healing and wont show 1h swords.

Endoscient · 07/29/09, 1:44 AM

Originally Posted by Monokeros

Does anyone know if theres an option in rawr for it to include other armor types than just plate? It also seems to think that I can only use 1h maces for healing and wont show 1h swords.

Are you talking about Healadin? Regardless you can change what is shown in Tools -> Refine Types of Items Listed...

Beltaine · 07/30/09, 12:01 PM

Edit: Nevermind, I wasn't looking closely enough at what Rawr was showing me. I answered my own question.

Razorscale · 07/30/09, 2:34 PM

I apologize if this has been posted before, but is the optimize feature for ret paladins broken? The optimized DPS is always lower than the initial one, even if I select only the gear currently equipped. For some reason it replaces all my +27 strength gems with +16, even if I tell it not to regem my gear.

EDIT: Well, I figured it out. Turns out I had to enable JC gems in the gemming template.

Also, when I enable Food and Elixers/Flasks in the additional properties section, my DPS goes up but it doesn't report what it's doing. It just shows the item upgrades.

Alcapwnd · 07/30/09, 3:55 PM

Originally Posted by Razorscale

Also, when I enable Food and Elixers/Flasks in the additional properties section, my DPS goes up but it doesn't report what it's doing. It just shows the item upgrades.

Go and check your buff tab after you accept the optimization. It should show you what food and flasks it has given you.

Razorscale · 07/30/09, 4:07 PM

Originally Posted by Alcapwnd

Go and check your buff tab after you accept the optimization. It should show you what food and flasks it has given you.

Ah, I didn't noticed that I had the wrong food selected in my initial setup. Thanks.

Tromeo · 08/03/09, 6:28 PM

The effective cooldowns section in our rotation menu doesn't allow us to drop crusader strike bellow 6 seconds for 3.2 testing.

tekkel · 08/04/09, 11:27 AM

The sov glyph expertise is not taken into account when selected with seal of vengeance. Rating doesn't go up.

Bladefox · 08/04/09, 3:07 PM

Originally Posted by tekkel

The sov glyph expertise is not taken into account when selected with seal of vengeance. Rating doesn't go up.

When you have the Seal of Vengeance glyph ticked, Seal of Vengeance as seal of choice under, Options > Fight Parameters (3.2 Mode). The expertise is added from the glyph. You'll notice it when you have for example 173 Expertise Rating (5.28%) but it still calculates 0% to be dodged on attack.

It calculated the expertise from glyph but didn't add the rating in the Stats pane, so it is working.

I expect a new release should be out after they get some live testing done.

Endoscient · 08/04/09, 5:29 PM

2.2.11 should be out today or tomorrow. It has all the changes, except I haven't yet implemented dps loss from rebuilding SoV stack from target switches.

HamSlammer · 08/08/09, 4:13 AM

The way Crusader's Coliseum loot is handled, IE same items w/ different names, is their any chance we can get a sort of convenience filter feature to differentiate between items available exclusively for one faction or the other? As it stands, RAWR is basically suggesting the same item because the items are, technically, different.

Secondly, it doesn't seem like RAWR is attributing the T9 bonuses correctly to the pieces. Neither Liadrin's or Turalyon's pieces were, of either the ilvl 232 or 245 types.

Endoscient · 08/08/09, 5:33 AM

We plan to implement a way to only show either horde or alliance specific items. Nothing like was required previously, so it requires a bit of new code to be supported.

For the set bonuses, when I initially implemented them the names of the bonuses weren't known yet so I put in a placeholder one. It is fixed for next release, but until then you can manually edit the current items and make the Set Name called "Paladin T9 Retribution".

cremor · 08/08/09, 3:00 PM

[Libram of Radiance] comes with no effect in 2.2.12.
I tried some things and managed to get a value for it again, but I'm not sure if I did it correct, so:
How do I correctly add its effect?

Endoscient · 08/08/09, 8:01 PM

Apparently they changed how much damage it provides in 3.2, so that screwed up the parsing for it. I fixed it for the next release, until then you can manually edit the item to add 78.75 Crusader Strike Damage in the Retribution section of stats.

♦ gcbirzan · 08/09/09, 4:29 AM

I'm completely clueless about melee, but, is the melee haste calculation correct? For example, looking at Endoscient's gear, both the armoury and my calculations (weapon speed / (1+haste)) give an actual weapon speed of 3.6 / 1.0702 = 3.36385722, but rawr is showing 3.23.

• Chicken · 08/09/09, 6:00 AM

Originally Posted by gcbirzan

I'm completely clueless about melee, but, is the melee haste calculation correct? For example, looking at Endoscient's gear, both the armoury and my calculations (weapon speed / (1+haste)) give an actual weapon speed of 3.6 / 1.0702 = 3.36385722, but rawr is showing 3.23.

Don't forget to include Swift Retribution, though that does take me to 3.26 and not 3.23.