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Old 12/21/09, 11:43 AM   #361
burghy
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Ravencrest (EU)
Rounded up that value and added that option to the choices. Hope it does what you meant.

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Old 12/21/09, 8:36 PM   #362
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Yup, that's perfect. Thanks for all the hard work!

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Old 12/22/09, 3:37 AM   #363
Thethiala
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Another thing I love about the addition of ICD tracking is the fact that you can use it on other spells/items as well, tracking their duration and cooldown with the same button. Just to show you what I mean:



I'm tracking Avenging Wrath, Divine Plea and Hyperspeed Acceleration as if they were internal cooldowns, and I've set all internal cooldowns to be faded out when on cooldown. This way the abilities you should pay attention to are solid, while the abilities on cooldowns are de-emphasized by having lower opacity. Works quite well in my opinion.

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Old 12/22/09, 10:25 AM   #364
Meecs
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Thethiala could you please give a description of how you set this up the way you have it?

One question I have as well: Will CLCret show two different buffs in that manner for Paragon if you have dual-DV?

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Old 12/22/09, 11:52 AM   #365
Italospawn
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Can someone explain how i can add Darkmoon card greatness (Str) in clcret i dont find a way, please step by step

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Old 12/22/09, 2:04 PM   #366
Eskostar
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Away from my gaming computer for the day, but regarding the ICD tracker in clcRet, does it only work if you have the combat log turned on?
I mean, if you turn off all the combat log events to reduce server-client traffic, will the ICD tracker not work?
Just wondering because I know Internal Cooldowns works, but some other addons have issues when the combat log is turned off.

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Originally Posted by Italospawn View Post
Can someone explain how i can add Darkmoon card greatness (Str) in clcret i dont find a way, please step by step
As far as I know, clcRet itself, on the Aura page, has all the info you need to set up DMC:G

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Old 12/22/09, 3:07 PM   #367
Exemplar
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Originally Posted by Eskostar View Post
I mean, if you turn off all the combat log events to reduce server-client traffic, will the ICD tracker not work?
At risk of sounding like an idiot, how do you completely turn off the combat log?

My understanding was you could add filters (such as the default "What Happened to Me?") to restrict what displays, but the entire log is still present and has been received. This is actually worse for PC issues (Processor or RAM limitations), because it's receiving the whole log, then processing to apply your filter (stressing the poor low end system unnecessarily).

If there's a method to completely disable, I'd be pleased to know - have some of our raiders with consistent issues that killing all log data would assist.

Rock: "We're sub-standard DPS. Nerf Paper, Scissors are fine."
Paper: "OMG, WTF, Scissors!"
Scissors: "Rock is OP and Paper are QQers. We need PvP buffs."

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Old 12/22/09, 3:23 PM   #368
burghy
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Doesn't work without combat log events, but it's the same for Internal Cooldowns.
How did you turn them off since you say IC works?

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Old 12/22/09, 5:54 PM   #369
Eskostar
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Indeed, all I did was disable all filters, so my combat log shows 0 events, that's the only way that I know of.
Internal cooldowns does work with no problem, but clcRet for the couple of minutes I had to try did not work at all, I'll add some events later to see if the disabled log was indeed the problem.

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Old 12/22/09, 7:24 PM   #370
xxlstryderlxx
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Originally Posted by Thethiala View Post
Another thing I love about the addition of ICD tracking is the fact that you can use it on other spells/items as well, tracking their duration and cooldown with the same button. Just to show you what I mean:



I'm tracking Avenging Wrath, Divine Plea and Hyperspeed Acceleration as if they were internal cooldowns, and I've set all internal cooldowns to be faded out when on cooldown. This way the abilities you should pay attention to are solid, while the abilities on cooldowns are de-emphasized by having lower opacity. Works quite well in my opinion.
Curious on how you get the numbers to appears on yours? Im trying the new clcret with the ICD proc and it works beautifully but showing the numbers would help me a lot too.

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Old 12/22/09, 7:37 PM   #371
Tharia
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I'm using OmniCC for that, any addon that will show numbers for cooldowns on your action bar will do (probably).

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Old 12/23/09, 11:01 AM   #372
Thethiala
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Originally Posted by Italospawn View Post
Can someone explain how i can add Darkmoon card greatness (Str) in clcret i dont find a way, please step by step
ICD tracking for dummies


Step 0: Display of aura buttons

The first thing you might want to do is to configure how clcret displays the aura buttons for ICD events. By default it shows a solid button when the ability is ready and when it's active, and makes it completely invisible when on cooldown and not active. I prefer to show the ability even when on cooldown, though with lower opacity. The way to do this is to set the option for 'On cooldown' to 'Faded', like in the picture below.



I'll take Darkmoon Card: Greatness as an example. With these settings clcret will display a solid button when it is ready to proc, as well as during the full duration of the proc. When the proc disappears, in this case after 15 seconds, the button will fade out and become transparent. If you've got an cooldown count addon (like OmniCC) it'll now display that you've got 30 seconds left of the internal cooldown. When the cooldown is done the button lights up again.


Step 1: Finding the information you need

In order to track a proc we need three pieces of information: Its spell ID, internal cooldown and duration. The easiest place to obtain this information is from a WoW database like wowhead or thottbot (I prefer wowhead myself). Simply search for the name of the proc as seen in your buff list in-game, and find the correct one if there are one or more others with the same name. I'll use Greatness as an example again: I've searched for Greatness in wowhead and thottbot, and made sure that I chose the 300 strength version. Finding the spell ID is very simple, as it's written in the URL when you select the right buff:

Greatness - Spell - World of Warcraft
Greatness - Thottbot: World of Warcraft

Those numbers at the end is the spell ID. The spell ID for the 300 strength proc of Greatness is in other words 60229. The duration is always listed on the tooltip of the ability ('Increases your Strength by 300 for 15 sec.'). Information about the internal cooldown however might be a little harder to come by. The easiest way to find this is to search for the item itself, not the proc, and browse through the comments. More likely then not you'll find information about the internal cooldown there. In this case we'll search for Darkmoon Card: Greatness, and by reading the comments we quickly learn that its internal cooldown is 45 seconds.


Step 2: Using the information you've found to make an aura button

Now that you've found all the information you need, we can make an aura button for the proc you want to track. First set the type of the button to 'ICD Proc'.



Next we enter the spell ID in 'Spell/item name/id or buff to track' - you'll notice that once you press okay the spell ID changes into the name of the proc. You can't just write the name of the proc initially though, you've got to use the spell ID.




In 'Target Unit' we'll enter the internal cooldown and duration of the proc, formatted like this: internalcooldown:duration. For Greatness this is 45:15. Once you've done this, your aura button is complete. All you've got to do now is to tweak its size, location etc. to your liking.




Bonus step: Making use of the ICD tracker for other abilities/items

As I've mentioned before, the 'ICD Proc' classification isn't actually limited to just internal cooldowns - if you want the same kind of functionality for other spells/items, where the ability fades out when on cooldown and lights up when available/active, that's possible to do. You quite simply do the same steps as when adding an actual internal cooldown proc, but replaces the internal cooldown with an actual cooldown.

I'll use Avenging Wrath as an example. You make a new aura button, and set its type to 'ICD Proc'. Enter the spell ID (31884) just like we've done before. Then we enter 120:20 into 'Target unit' - we simply replace what's normally an internal cooldown with an actual cooldown. You'll now have an aura button which tracks Avenging Wrath with the same behavior as buttons tracking internal cooldowns. The advantage of doing this for all of your buttons is that abilities you should pay attention to are more visible, while abilities on cooldowns are de-emphasized.


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Old 12/24/09, 3:42 PM   #373
gmedina
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Curious where did you get that ICD proc portion of Clc because my version doesn't have it, though you can do the same using item visible instead of spell id.

Also i can't seem to get it to track The Art of War buff? has anyone been able to do this?

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Old 12/24/09, 5:39 PM   #374
Thethiala
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It's a recent addition to clcret which is what we've been discussing lately, make sure you've updated to the latest version. And while you can show the internal cooldown using 'item visible', you can't show both the internal cooldown of the proc and its duration while active with the same button, neither can you make it fade out when on cooldown.

As for tracking Art of War, these settings should do the trick:

I believe newer versions of clcret include this aura button by default, though you've got to enable it.

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Old 12/24/09, 6:28 PM   #375
gmedina
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Originally Posted by Thethiala View Post
It's a recent addition to clcret which is what we've been discussing lately, make sure you've updated to the latest version. And while you can show the internal cooldown using 'item visible', you can't show both the internal cooldown of the proc and its duration while active with the same button, neither can you make it fade out when on cooldown.

As for tracking Art of War, these settings should do the trick:

I believe newer versions of clcret include this aura button by default, though you've got to enable it.

Good point i was using Power Aura to track the buff duration.

Hmm i thought i had it that way ill try it again

Edit:

So i tried it and i must say very very nice, consolidates a lot of information in one area. Now if im understanding this correctly there is no longer any use for omniCC for these is there, or for that matter internalcooldowns?

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