Ret FCFS Rotation Helper - Page 56

Thunderchylde · 08/17/12, 6:33 PM

I hacked together a version that will look for DP - i'll put it up somewhere if people are interested. It's only real flaw so far is that it's theoretically possible to lose a proc if you have enough other stuff to do. I might try to get that one in this weekend (unless someone else does it far better)

Rallian · 08/20/12, 2:14 PM

Originally Posted by Thunderchylde

I hacked together a version that will look for DP - i'll put it up somewhere if people are interested. It's only real flaw so far is that it's theoretically possible to lose a proc if you have enough other stuff to do. I might try to get that one in this weekend (unless someone else does it far better)

I'd like to see this if you are going to post it I find it a little daunting to have to watch for it, when it can be missed easily in the mists of heavy action.

cky71321 · 08/20/12, 5:47 PM

[Lua] retribution.lua - Pastebin.com

An edited version of CLCInfo's Retribution module that I've been using. Right now, it's currently set to have the following basic priority: Inqdp > Inq > DP (<2 sec) TV > 5 HP TV > HoW > Exo > CS > J > 3 HP TV > (>2 sec) DP TV . This comes as the result of a recent post by Exemplar in the 5.0 Ret thread. I can make any single target changes that people may request, but doing work on AoE priority and detecting seals will take a bit.

Thunderchylde · 08/21/12, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by cky71321

[Lua] retribution.lua - Pastebin.com

An edited version of CLCInfo's Retribution module that I've been using. Right now, it's currently set to have the following basic priority: Inqdp > Inq > DP (<2 sec) TV > 5 HP TV > HoW > Exo > CS > J > 3 HP TV > (>2 sec) DP TV . This comes as the result of a recent post by Exemplar in the 5.0 Ret thread. I can make any single target changes that people may request, but doing work on AoE priority and detecting seals will take a bit.

He's done more than mine as I haven't done the >2s DP TV. I don't think there's any need for Inqdp > Inq or tv3 > tvdp as the dp will be sucked up regardless now that it is proc'd from finishers.

My priority was Inq (min HP or DP) under 3s > tv5 > HoW > Eco > CS > J > tv3 (which will eat DP if it exists) - I just didn't have the <2s tvDP in there alongside the tv5.

My understanding is that it should be:

Inq (min HP or DP) < Inq refresh
TV 5 HP or DP < 2s
HoW
Exo
CS
J
TV 3 HP or DP

This should take into account the DP changes - I just haven't added DP < 2s to my tv5 in mine but I reckon I'd be beaten to it

I'm personally not sure that you really need an AoE option - as it's just replace CS with HotR and TV with DS - given that the breakpoints for SoR, HotR and DS are all different I'm not sure you can replace the human decision making...

cky71321 · 08/21/12, 1:12 PM

The AoE priority was already in the coding from the Curseforge MoP version of CLCInfo. I've mostly just been tweaking it around to add in the few missing things (most notably, DP). My own sims at 85 are actually showing the highest DPS with the following priority:

Inq > HoW > 5 HP/DP TV > Exo > CS > J > 3 HP CS

I even have coding ready to go now should Glyph of WoG somehow remain a contender at 90. I do also planning on cleaning it up a bit (like combining Inq and InqDP, as you suggested).

Balhale · 08/21/12, 1:21 PM

My sims at 90 agree with that priority. If you use HA then during HA you use 3HP TVs up with 5HP/DP TV.

Except that Hammer needs to be below 5HP TV. Above DP TV is roughly identical to below it, but it definitely needs to be below 5HP TV.

Rallian · 08/21/12, 3:27 PM

Originally Posted by cky71321

The AoE priority was already in the coding from the Curseforge MoP version of CLCInfo. I've mostly just been tweaking it around to add in the few missing things (most notably, DP). My own sims at 85 are actually showing the highest DPS with the following priority:

Inq > HoW > 5 HP/DP TV > Exo > CS > J > 3 HP CS

I even have coding ready to go now should Glyph of WoG somehow remain a contender at 90. I do also planning on cleaning it up a bit (like combining Inq and InqDP, as you suggested).

I've tried to use this input in the current version for the MoP beta is there something i'm missing as I keep getting an error. So I am currently unable to get this priority to work for testing. I'd also like to ask about the retribution.lua that was posted where does that come into play and how am I able to implement it? I'm not new to clcret but info is new to me since clcret has not been updated for MoP.

cky71321 · 08/21/12, 5:12 PM

For the .lua files that are posted, you simply install CLCInfo and replace the retribution.lua file in CLCInfo/Data/Paladin. You'll need to manually set it up yourself to look like CLCRet (which is what you're most likely used to), but it doesn't take very long. I believe it was the addon's author who made this quick video that shows how to set it up.

Rallian · 08/21/12, 6:12 PM

Originally Posted by cky71321

For the .lua files that are posted, you simply install CLCInfo and replace the retribution.lua file in CLCInfo/Data/Paladin. You'll need to manually set it up yourself to look like CLCRet (which is what you're most likely used to), but it doesn't take very long. I believe it was the addon's author who made this quick video that shows how to set it up.

Hey thanks for the explanation I'll set it up shortly, now as for the priority set up thats a different issue unless this lua helps with that

Rallian · 08/21/12, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by cky71321

The AoE priority was already in the coding from the Curseforge MoP version of CLCInfo. I've mostly just been tweaking it around to add in the few missing things (most notably, DP). My own sims at 85 are actually showing the highest DPS with the following priority:

Inq > HoW > 5 HP/DP TV > Exo > CS > J > 3 HP CS

I even have coding ready to go now should Glyph of WoG somehow remain a contender at 90. I do also planning on cleaning it up a bit (like combining Inq and InqDP, as you suggested).

Could I ask you to give me the direct priority line up format for clcinfo I tried and I think I completely botched it up trying convert it from the quoted text

burghy · 08/22/12, 3:02 AM

clcInfo - clcinfo_mop_005 - WoW AddOns - CurseForge

- added lvl 90 talents
- should account for holy avenger
- added tvdp and inqdp

Not sure what particular rotation options are still needed. Looking at the ret thread first post basics seem covered.

Rallian · 08/22/12, 1:43 PM

Originally Posted by burghy

clcInfo - clcinfo_mop_005 - WoW AddOns - CurseForge

- added lvl 90 talents
- should account for holy avenger
- added tvdp and inqdp

Not sure what particular rotation options are still needed. Looking at the ret thread first post basics seem covered.

Great Thanks for the update! Now to wreck my brain constructing the optimal rotation priority...but it'll be so worth it I'm excited about this! Hopefully with the update and the addition of the lvl 90 talents an new priority code can be implimented

Rallian · 08/22/12, 3:07 PM

Here is what I came up with after a while of trial and error with the new update that includes the lvl 90 talents (note i'm really not that good at this part of the addon) I just merely plugged in the new talents and codes where I thought they would fit so keep that in mind, from a previous setup I found. Please feel free to change or provide a better priority, like I said I not good at this portion and figure I'd try.

Old Priority: inq tv5 mexo how cs j tv3

New Priority: inq inqdp tv5 tvdp mexo es how cs j tv3 tvdp es

Some things I am concerned about;

1) is it optimal?

2) trying to get Execution Sentence to take priority over HoW when wings are active if feasible or possible (before update I'd pop GoAK wait 10 seconds then pop AW,ES, HA (if I specced it). Reason behind AW then ES is to get the damage boost...not sure if that was correct either.

3) Do we as Ret use these CD executing sentence and Lights hammer right off the bat like mages did with Flame Orb or do we line it up with AW and hit every CD point from there?

Balhale · 08/22/12, 7:58 PM

The second es is irrelevant, as is the second tvdp. Hammer is above exo which should be below es. Definitely hold the first es for 10 seconds after GoAK for the str boost and AW. Light's hammer you would not use on CD probably but would instead line up with aoe phases. You need a whopping 5-6 targets for even glyphed exo to do more damage than hammer of wrath, at least at T14H or 5man heroics gear level.

Rallian · 08/23/12, 1:07 PM

Originally Posted by Balhale

The second es is irrelevant, as is the second tvdp. Hammer is above exo which should be below es. Definitely hold the first es for 10 seconds after GoAK for the str boost and AW. Light's hammer you would not use on CD probably but would instead line up with aoe phases. You need a whopping 5-6 targets for even glyphed exo to do more damage than hammer of wrath, at least at T14H or 5man heroics gear level.

So I am assuming from your reply this would be possibly optimal?

Priority: inq inqdp tv5 tvdp es mexo how cs j tv3

or

Priority: inq inqdp tv5 tvdp mexo how es cs j tv3