Ret FCFS Rotation Helper - Page 61

slipey · 12/07/12, 12:12 PM

Just tested the alpha. The new changes appear to be working correctly. Thanks for implementing so quickly.

Mckeever121 · 12/14/12, 12:29 AM

is this the best rotation to use? and should i set my HoW clash to 0.2?

inq inqdp tv5 inqes es how exo cs j tv3 ss

• Gillingham · 12/14/12, 4:14 PM

Is there a mod around to maybe update the first post to change links to the new clcinfo addon since the original is no longer maintained and that is what the discussion has currently shifted towards?

Icharispally · 12/17/12, 8:06 PM

With obtaining my 4 piece bonus i now use the tier 5 talent Sanctified Wrath. I have changed the priority on the rotation options in my clcret (to cover both my normal rotation and that on AW) to be:

inq howaw tvaw tv5 inqes inqhpr how exo cs j tv3 ss

I welcome any comments and inputs that would improve this.

Arjac7 · 12/25/12, 3:44 PM

Originally Posted by Icharispally

With obtaining my 4 piece bonus i now use the tier 5 talent Sanctified Wrath. I have changed the priority on the rotation options in my clcret (to cover both my normal rotation and that on AW) to be:

inq howaw tvaw tv5 inqes inqhpr how exo cs j tv3 ss

I welcome any comments and inputs that would improve this.

This looks good, nice!

Is there a way to not have out of range show? I can get around it easily, I just have Mass Exorcism glyphed and it can from me personally through a loop at times.

Also, wasn't there an option for Judgment clash? I'd rather wait the .2 - .5 seconds to CS/HotR when sometimes I blindly Judge and can't quite see if my CS/HotR is under half a second from CD.

pedjaland · 12/26/12, 6:43 AM

Originally Posted by Icharispally

With obtaining my 4 piece bonus i now use the tier 5 talent Sanctified Wrath. I have changed the priority on the rotation options in my clcret (to cover both my normal rotation and that on AW) to be:

inq howaw tvaw tv5 inqes inqhpr how exo cs j tv3 ss

I welcome any comments and inputs that would improve this.

Looks okay all but last part where it goes exo>cs, cs should always be 1st hopo gen ability

Nisall · 12/26/12, 6:53 AM

Originally Posted by pedjaland

Looks okay all but last part where it goes exo>cs, cs should always be 1st hopo gen ability

That is wrong. Icharispally almost had the correct order. Assuming one is using the AW talent the order should be

inq howaw tvaw tv5 inqes inqhpr how exo jaw cs j tv3 ss

Technically judgement should also be infront of CS when you are in execute range (sub 20%), but I don't think you can program clc to do this?

cremor · 12/26/12, 10:00 AM

What is "jaw"? My clcInfo doesn't support that option. Did you mean "jhow"? If I interpret that option correctly, it's exactly what you want (J if AW is active or target is sub 20%).

edit: And a question for burghy: Is there any reason why SS is only shown if the buff has completely expired? Wouldn't it be better to show it if the buff has <= 6 sec. left too? Of course still only if it doesn't delay a damage spell.

Nisall · 12/27/12, 4:05 AM

Honestly I didn't even know clc allowed for howaw/tvaw so when I saw those I assumed it allowed for jaw (J when AW is active). I don't think you can set spells for sub 20%, but correct me if I'm wrong.

cremor · 12/27/12, 5:40 AM

Copied from clcInfo:
howaw: Hammer of Wrath during Avenging Wrath
tvaw: Templar's Verdict HP >= 3 during Avenging Wrath
jhow: Judgement when Hammer of Wrath is usable

howaw and tvaw check if the AW buff is still up. jhow just checks if HoW is usable, therefore J shows up when either AW is up or the target is sub 20%.

Exemplar · 12/27/12, 8:18 AM

Originally Posted by cremor

edit: And a question for burghy: Is there any reason why SS is only shown if the buff has completely expired? Wouldn't it be better to show it if the buff has <= 6 sec. left too? Of course still only if it doesn't delay a damage spell.

I'd say SS should be offered any time it's both off CD and you have the window where it won't delay a damage spell. If I used SS 10 seconds ago and have a window to refresh, why wouldn't I? That's potentially 10 more seconds of pleasant damage reduction. Refresh windows for SS are very sporadic what with AoW proccing a fresh Exo and Haste increasing the frequency of our many attacks - waiting until SS drops often means a long period before you again have a no-loss chance to refresh.

The only reason I didn't ask earlier is because clcInfo is already moving from "Ret FCFS Rotation Helper" to "Ret Robotically Follow My Instructions". It's getting to the point where the mod can iron out even the edge cases of what we're supposed to do. Not that this is a problem with the mod or with burghy (who clearly puts significant time and effort into this great tool), more a lament that the Blizzard Ret design permits such a degree of handholding to be feasible.

burghy · 12/27/12, 11:31 AM

Added option for SS duration left in new alphas (when curse packager uploads them).
The reason it wasn't there is really simple, nobody asked for it and I haven't played ret in a while.

Pdawg · 12/28/12, 12:13 AM

One reason for not using SS when no other abilities will be pushed back is in case you get an Art of War proc. Casting SS will start a 1.5 second GCD, potentially delaying Exorcism and the abilities.that follow it. Personally I would ignore this chance and very small DPS loss "over the long run", but obsessed individuals may like to see the addon look at the swing timer and suggest SS only if the next swing comes in > 1.5 seconds, in addition to the existing conditions.

Strongfish · 01/10/13, 1:39 AM

Can't get my Iron Belly Wok to show up right as an aura button. Using the OnUse item always visible type. The button shows but the cooldown is missing. It throws the error below once the first time CLCret comes up.

Thanks for any help. Maybe I am setting the button up wrong?

Date: 2013-01-10 01:25:21
ID: 1
Error occured in: Global
Count: 1
Message: ..\AddOns\CLCRet\clcret.lua line 528:
Usage: GetItemCooldown(itemID)
Debug:
[C]: GetItemCooldown()
CLCRet\clcret.lua:528: ?()
CLCRet\clcret.lua:202:
CLCRet\clcret.lua:188
Locals:
(*temporary) = "Iron Belly Wok"

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pvita · 01/10/13, 4:04 AM

@Pdawg: Good you mentioned it. I was ignoring SS in SimulationCraft (SimC) before not realising the consequence of triggered GCD and Art of War. Unfortunately the actual version of SimC is not supporting SS, so adding the line:

actions+=/sacred_shield,if=(buff.sacred_shield.down|buff.sacred_shield.remains<=5)

into action list fails. I opened the ticked on their web hoping they add SS into paladin module. In the meantime I am faking it with:

actions+=/wait,sec=1.5

But that is not ideal either considering the missing SS buff check.