Ret FCFS Rotation Helper - Page 62

biris · 01/29/13, 6:23 AM

If I may ask, is there a particular reason for jhow better than cs ? Why is judgement better than CS when under AW, or when target < 20% ?

Pdawg · 01/29/13, 12:08 PM

Under our normal rotation, CS is higher priority than Judgment because of it's shorter cooldown. Although Judgment hits harder we end up generating more holy power by prioritizing CS, leading to more holy power generating, leading to higher DPS.

During AW, our rotation is shortened to HoW -> filler -> HoW -> TV -> repeat. This rotation is sustainable for the entire duration of AW, and you should simply use whatever filler hits hardest: Exorcism, Judgment, then CS. Since the CD on Judgment is 6 seconds before SoB, even if Exorcism is on CD and you dont' get any AoW procs, a HoW -> Judgment -> HoW -> TV -> repeat rotation is completely sustainable.

There AW rotation can be modified for higher DPS by using TV only if Exorcism is not available, as discussed in the ret thread. Even with this modification, prioritizing Judgment over CS still applies.

JediMa · 02/13/13, 5:08 AM

Originally Posted by Icharispally

With obtaining my 4 piece bonus i now use the tier 5 talent Sanctified Wrath. I have changed the priority on the rotation options in my clcret (to cover both my normal rotation and that on AW) to be:

inq howaw tvaw tv5 inqes inqhpr how exo cs j tv3 ss

I welcome any comments and inputs that would improve this.

Take a look here please

[MoP] clcinfo Guide - Page 5

Swordlight · 02/22/13, 10:46 AM

At the danger of getting flamed or nuked, I wonder if some kind souls could help me set up my CLCInfo for both a Ret and a Prot Spec? I've just spent a few months seriously ill and need to get back into some semblance of WoW activity again. I had CLCInfo set up beautifully for my Ret Spec (4 Piece LFR Tier set) and sort of for my dungeons spec (5 Piece LFR Tier set).

Somehow my kids seemed to mess up all the settings and I have tried reinstalling it but no joy with the strings for Ret and Prot. Also I need a pointer to a simple guide I can use to reset up all my icon watching, cooldowns etc.

I know we don't all like these add ons normally, but it will be a huge help for me while I build muscle memory and get myself back into the game. Really appreciate your help as I'm just stuck at the moment.

Teleros · 03/08/13, 11:02 AM

Take a look at the clcinfo wiki, Swordlight:

https://sites.google.com/site/clcinfowiki/home

A few tutorials on there too - they're old, but not much has changed since then in terms of how the addon actually works.

Inverse · 03/19/13, 6:11 PM

For the purposes of the CLCRet priority order, is JHOW the same was JAW since HOW is available during this time, or do they have to be listed separately. I've seen so many priorities the past few days, each claiming to be the best and/or most efficient, I'm just trying to trim the fat.

Thanks!

cremor · 03/20/13, 3:05 AM

Isn't the ingame description clear enough?
jhow: Judgement when Hammer of Wrath is usable (during Avenging Wrath and sub 20%)
jaw: Judgement during Avenging Wrath (but not sub 20%)

aylen86 · 04/02/13, 6:50 AM

Hey burghy, would you consider adding a function which sets TV3 and TV4 in front of a CS when the t15 pc4 piece buff "Templar's Verdict" is active? Seems like a smart move to minimize wasted procs.

burghy · 04/02/13, 2:58 PM

Added tv3_4t15 and tv4_4t15. Can't test so let me know if it works and if it's enough.
Also if you have clcret it should be possible to download the clcinfo alpha and copy over the retmodule dir.

mackaque · 04/02/13, 7:56 PM

tv3_4t15 doesn't work for me ... still suggest CS @ 3HP with the 4P T15 buff.

burghy · 04/03/13, 1:52 AM

Not getting that setbonus anytime soon so not exactly sure what goes wrong.

Pls get latest alpha, enable debug and make a record/sshot of when it happens with the debug window visible.
Also paste the rotation string or make a screenshot of the rotation settings showing it.

mackaque · 04/03/13, 3:58 AM

Got the new alpha ... debug window on ... when I get the T15 4P buff in the debug window it stays at 0 so it seems that it doesn't catch the buff or something.

Here is the buff name and the ID

Buff name : Templar's Verdict
Buff ID : 138169

If you really need the SS I can take one but if you can confirm me that in the debug window the "4t15" should be at 1 or something when I get the buff then I can confirm it stays at 0.

EDIT : I see in the ret module code that you have the right ID for the buff so I don't know what is wrong.

burghy · 04/03/13, 7:23 AM

It should show duration. Uploaded a new build with a modified UnitBuff call check if it works pls.
Also, in case it doesn't work, let me know what /dump UnitBuff("player", "Templar's Verdict") shows when you have the buff up.

mackaque · 04/03/13, 5:53 PM

Still not working ... in the debug window the 4t15 stay at 0. I don't know if it can help you but this buff has no timer ... when it's up it stay up until you do a TV so for example you can build the buff on trash and start a boss fight with the buff active.

Here is what you asked for

Dump: value=UnitBuff("Silvercreek", "Templar's Verdict")
[1]="Templar's Verdict",
[2]="",
[3]="INTERFACE\\ICONS\\spell_paladin_templarsverdict",
[4]=1,
[6]=0,
[7]=0,
[8]="player",
[11]=138169,
[12]=false,
[14]=true,
[15]=138165

Hope it can help you.

burghy · 04/03/13, 6:53 PM

Yeah the no duration was surely messing with it. Can you check with latest build and let me know if it works? Debug should show a very high value when it's up.