To set "only show my buffs" on the buff Light's Beacon does not work since it is not counted as belonging to you but to the person you put Beacon of Light on.

I find this quite annoying since I would like to be able to show who I'm "safe" to heal and to sometimes be able to ask the people too far away to get closer to the tank.

I do prety much the same thing as you do, show the beacon of light and light's beacon as a blue / yellow dot in the bottom right corner. It works quite well when I'm the only holy paladin in the raid but when we are two I haven't found a way to show only my Beacon-target's Light's Beacon buffs since if i turn it on to only show my buffs the Light's Beacon won't show at all and if it's turned off all Light's Beacon will show up, even those who belongs to the other paladins beacon-target.

Where can I find the information how much damage ist absorbed by Divine Sacrifice or the Sacred Shield? We use at the moment WoWWebStats for analyzing the logs. But I havent found any numbers for both there.

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World of Logs tries to guess at the absorbed values, but it is just a wild guess.

You can try RecountGuessedAbsorbs for ingame analyzing, but that's also just a guess (because the combat log doesn't provide the data which shield absorbed the damage).

Popping bubble before using DiSac almost always gives me the full 10 second duration and huge amounts of damage absorbed when the raid damage is continous. It seems abit buggy almost, I don't think blizzard intended it to work like this but at same time I don't think they know how to prevent it atm since instant damage is instant and you can't really say the shield has reached its cap untill 'after' its already been exceeded.

World of Logs estimates the damage absorbed by shields etc, while it is a guestimate when I've compared the site to ingame tracking from recountguessedshields addon they have been very similar, it also seems fairly consistant as pretty much all the hodir trys i've looked at have a similar value absorbed for my DiSac and the other paladin in the raid. But obviously untill blizzard stop being lazy there is no way to accurately track it.

From what I understand, it is completely accurate if you are the only Paladin in the raid. If no one else is casting Sacred Shield and Divine Sacrifice then it will be 100% accurate.

Improbable. There are several other sources of damage absorb that can through off the meters--most notably priests and DK tanks.

As logic'd out a few pages back, the absolutel maximum a Sacred Shield could possibly absorb is ~3,822, and this number is totally infeasible for the average holy paladin since it requires a Sheath spec. Any absorption numbers you see above that should be reevaluated closely.

absolute maximum is an aproximate number? (~)

Yes. This assumes every possible buff fully talented, specific food and elixir choices, 4pt8, full BIS gear with maximum sockets, and the aforementioned Sheath spec. The odds of the planets ever aligning upon all of these conditions in game are pretty much nil. That means this is a far-off, unobtainable estimate meant to be used as an upper limit, not an expectation. The actual absorption that a paladin would obtain, even if he specs, plays, and gears perfectly, is very likely to be less.

Furthermore, the emphasis that the number is an approximation is thrown in there purely for CYA purposes. From experience I can tell you that the moment you say "no player can have more than 3500 spellpower" or the like, someone will come up and say "you can have 3510 spellpower if you use Bloodthistle!" The '~' is there to prevent any ridiculous debate over minor +/- in relation to this number.

In other words, you will never see a Sacred Shield absorb over 3,800 until the next tier of raid content. 6k absorbs are absolutely impossible.

6k absorbs would necessitate 6000 spellpower and Divine Guardian. Considering you can get, at most, 1339 spellpower from enchants, buffs, and Sheath's contribution, this means you need 4661 naked spell power on your gear alone. That number does not currently exist in-game, and isn't likely to until the next expansion.

Feya, the paladin with the estimated 6k shields, did state that he/she was standing in a shadow crash on Vezax. The crash provides a +100% damage done modifier.

Does the absorb value for the shield get modified by this modifier? This would double the normal absorption value of the shield, allowing very large absorbs.

We have put thought into your gearing and gemming choices. I believe it's presented in the OP.

Spamming HL is more fun than spamming FoL because it's the difference between someone dying or not.

I doubt your suggestions would bring any change to our healing style. As far as I know shamans and priests have similar talents but I haven't heard of them changing their playstyle to benefit from them.

I'd be more then happy to link a few combat parses from our General Vezax attempts last week to prove it. The key here is shields count as damage for this modifier. Our Discipline priest is noticing the exact same effect to his shields (some absorbs as high as 12k from what i've seen). If you don't believe me try it yourself.

Theorycrafting is great, and the guy goin crazy over here saying its impossible has obviously not done any field work. Give it a try and get out of the lab.

Yea I had the same unfortunate experience. Still... I highlight lights beacon because its rare that our beacon targets are so far apart they wouldn't at least share some common range. The problem remains, however, and in those circumstances I rarely rely on Beacon to keep a tank up (with me off having a grand adventure raid healing).

I started tracking Divine Plea procs too, so I would know when to step up healing if my partner runs off proc'ing and being terrible for a few seconds ;p

There are lots of useful ways of tracking buffs related to Paladins and absolutely none of them require standalone mods. Integrate those functions into Grid and you can keep your eyes on the prize, so to speak, and make sure your still healing instead of looking at nifty bar charts.

If this is the case, it's probably a bug and that will be fixed. Other %-damage increase effects do not affect Sacred Shield (Imp. Ret Aura, Rune of Power, Power Spark). I wouldn't make a habit of relying on this strategy.

my guild is currently working on General hard mode 10 man. Currently this is how i spec for general hard mode attempts. I was told this is a good spec to maximize what I bring to the table. The primary reason for the change from deep holy (51/20/0) is to maximize HPM by having Blessing of Sanctuary. I wanted to see if the holy pally community here thought that the benifits of this spec would outweigh the cons (ie no beacon during elemental phase, or the other deep holy talents). Is there a cookie cutter spec that would be even more viable than either of the two specs on this encounter?

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just to clarify we are using 2 tanks (warrior/dk) 2 healers(holy paladin/disc priest) atm. The priest is using shadow crash to maximize his shield useage. I was stacking on boss and focused on keeping the tank ~85-90% life to prevent overhealing. dk tanking boss, warrior on elemental.

Why are you speccing BoSac for Vezax? Because of the 3% dmg reduction?
I think this is a really bad deal, you're loosing on some of the best talents in the holy tree for nearly nothing (you are only reducing the dmg intake of the warrior with BoSac, vigilance should be on the MT).
Also if your healing the MT actively, Benediction isn't that great in my opinion cause you aren't just casting instant spells.

Standard 51/20/0 spec would be much better for vezax hard. Beacon on OT (casted in crash) will greatly help in phase 2. Also since you are (or at least should be) in melee range and barely moving, you would hardly use holy shock thus making sacred shield and occasional judgement only instants that you will use once a minute.

I won't also call 15% haste not usefull - if it will save you one HL cast while FoLing the tank it will save more mana than benediction. Even in 25man hard mode I almost exclusively FoL (being only healer on DK MT, not counting shieds and occasional HoTs) with rare shocks, I just won't have a time to cast slow HL in 'oh-shit' moment neither mana to keep light grace up. Thus haste is effective stat allowing me to go away with FoLing only.

I see a slight problem with this. You've got a Discipline Priest in raid, and Disc priests bring a 3% damage mitigation that -doesn't- stack with BoSanc. The Holy Protector/Flash of Light spec can be useful for Vezax but is in general inferior to 51/anything, even with 4T8.

Indeed, BoL is useful in phase 2, but I'm not so sure about haste. During the normal phase of Vezax, you can squeeze in two FoLs between two tank hits, three and a HS between three consecutive tank hits. 4 consecutive might be a problem, yeah, but then, that would be a problem anyway, even with 15% haste.

BoSac might not be useful (didn't read that about discipline priest, duh :-( ), but except BoL, you're not losing all that much in my opinion, especially in 10 man.

It all depends on your setup. We only have 1 tank for Vezax 10 man hard mode, therefore I too have a "butchered spec". Last time we were doing it there were 2 holy paladins, but of us dropped BoL, IoL & Enlightened Judgements, I specced benediction & imp might (for the dps boost) and he specced imp devo aura & BoSanc. We didn't kill it but that was nothing to do with healing, we had a few dps forgetting that a shadow crash that can one shot you that late in the fight is a bad thing and as we are running melee heavy that resulted in us getting mark of the faceless + shadow crash on melee, unfortunately.

As others have said benediction isn't really that helpful though so you might as well keep Judgements of the Pure.

How high are the healing- and dps-requirements? Do you need to have 7 dps (1 tank, 2 healer), or do you need 3 healers do counter the incoming dps at the end of the animus phase?

I am asking this because I still cannot decide between a spec involving divine guardian, which would give more throughput through JotP and DG, or a spec involving Judgement of the Wise, which would increase the mana longevity but not giving that mouch throughput.

The recommended setup would be 2 tanks, 2 healer, 6 dps. One tank less is a bit of a risk factor, but since the incoming damage is ridiculously low in normal mode, I'd guess it could work.
Speccing into JotW is pointless by the way - the moment you enter the encounter with JotW specced (1 point suffices), you are afflicted by a debuff increasing your mana regen through it by about 100%, but reducing your healing done by about 90%. JotW would simplify the encounter way too much.